Thresh: Is this what balance looks like?

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Having only collected souls, basically on accident by walking over them, I found his armor growth to give on par, or even better armor stat that the other champions around me. That's without me ever having to try to get that bonus; like it just happened, without me even thinking about it. And I guess, at level 1, he's at a disadvantage, but I think his base health is pretty high, so he's still tough.

The other character who gets stronger by collecting things, is Bard. I like playing Bard a lot. With Bard, you spend the entire game, thinking about getting chimes, planning out how to get them, putting yourself in harms way to get as many as possible. For all that, you gain an attack that, barely anyone needs to care about--for all that effort.

I played Thresh, I literally didn't think about getting a soul, even one time. At level 10, I had enviable armor, and a base attack that does over 100 ranged damage! I would love to have that much base damage, on any champion! 1/3rd split into magic damage, on every single hit, and sometimes it does way more than that! That makes Bard look like a big pile of poop!

How is this considered "balanced?" I think Thresh should have to work to gain these kind of stats: they shouldn't happen while I'm literally not even thinking about collecting souls. Am I missing something? The enemy was pushing us pretty hard; it's not as though I could walk freely around the battlefield.

Is it because he has only one AD ratio, to put him off accelerating his attack damage? Because his kit can't burst a lot of damage that ratios from AP, so he can't really build offensively? Although obviously attack speed Thresh is really good.

Like, if he didn't get the number of souls as bonus damage for every single hit, I could see something here. But he has low mana costs, too--especially with his Q getting a reduction when it lands, like, he should really be expending his mana to use that. Rationally, he's at a disadvantage, with no natural armor growth: but in reality, he has armor growth. There's nothing bad balancing these things out, that I can see.

The only reason, right now, I can think he's balanced, is that his kit provides numerous strong advantages, that can't really be turned into a super-strong build. Is this it? Is this why he's considered balanced? Because it seems like, like I'm not even trying with Thresh, and I end up with good stats. . Doesn't seem like, a good thing.

5 Comments

alasarcher2 votes

Correct me if i am wrong, but Thresh isnt getting any AD from souls. So why do u mention AD? Also Thresh AD on lvl 18 is 85.

Opportunistic1 votes

DUDE, just play and stop worrying about the small stuff. There are far more pressing matters to deal with than thresh who is barely noticeable in games right now. You want to see OP? Look at who the LCS pick/ban...There is your OP champs.

Dominick Destine1 votes

I used to think Thresh was overpowered but over time I have come to realize he is only overpowered relative to the alternative supports that are pure garbage.

Thresh is on par with non supports, whereas Taric for example, stands far below him.

OurLestrade1 votes

He still gets bursted easily, and his damage outside of lane falls off hard. You know, like pretty much all supports.

MrwiOzV6pB1 votes

Bard is balanced. He is just more difficult to use than Thresh. Bard's totem becomes so useless for the fast pace game by mid game even some Bard pro's like Krepo don't even upgrade totem heal because it's more useful to have a low cd portal for ganks. You just have to know how to use him and setting up ganks with him. He has a very different play style in the sense that he can roam more often and get away with helping carrying a team almost as a 2nd jungler.

I honestly didn't feel comfortable with Bard to his full potential until I reached around 50k experience on him. I think the biggest thing I learned on him is learning to land skill shots perfectly on people that are zhonya'd. This is something that comes in handy for every champion. The other day someone actually zhonya'd under their turret at low hp and I was able to hook them with Thresh in mid-air after their zhonya went away lol. I thanked my Bard experience for that one.

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