...is Rammus?
The guy, unless he gets a successful gank and gets ahead, has one of the slowest clears I have ever seen. It takes at least a minute to clear buffs with smite, and until he starts stacking his armor (and has cinderhulk) his farming in the jungle is absolutely pitiful.
I hope they consider reverting some nerfs he got when ADCs were strong(er).
GarthBrooksXD1 votesYou need to play Rammus like you would play Pantheon or Shaco in the jg or you will just get out farmed by the enemy jungler and lose. Play Rammus to gank, not to power farm. This is why it is recommended that you lvl e first then w second. It's about having very strong early presence and getting yyour team ahead, then peeling and tanking for them in the late/mid game.
Melledoneus1 votesIf it takes 2 minutes to get a buff to hit level 3 for Q, how am I supposed to gank?
GarthBrooksXD1 votesyeah u went and maxed w first like a monkey. hes meant to play balls out early on. how do you gank? you clear camps until ur 3 then push q like everyone else.
Melledoneus1 votesIt's funny how you disregarded all the details of my post. I max E on Rammus, I was trying to hit level 3 to get my third ability, in order to gank.
GarthBrooksXD2 votesNo I looked up your last ranked game as Rammus and you ranked w first. You just want to complain about something like every other bronze. Rammus has a great win rate in plat+ and needs no buffs. He's a niche pick though, particularly good against heavy ad comps with prolific ad assassins and divers.
Melledoneus1 votesMy last ranked game as Rammus I roamed.
I play mostly normals to improve on my mechanics, and maxing E and all has done no favors for early clears, either.
GarthBrooksXD1 votesmaxing e is for ganking. maxing w would make you farm better, but you don't play him to out clear graves [zombie-brand-facepalm]
Melledoneus1 votesYou do realize we're talking about level 2, right? Where you don't really "max" anything just yet?
GarthBrooksXD1 votesno ive told you this whole time to max e first. You are maxing w first. [zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-brand-mindblown] [zombie-brand-facepalm] [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
Melledoneus1 votesYou're trolling at this point.
GarthBrooksXD1 votes[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Melledoneus1 votesYou do realize we're talking about level 2, right? Where you don't really "max" anything just yet?
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we're talking about level 2
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level fucking 2
where neither E nor W can be maxed because you have TWO POINTS FOR ABILITIES
WitchQueen Annie1 votesYou need to play Rammus like you would play Pantheon or Shaco in the jg or you will just get out farmed by the enemy jungler and lose. Play Rammus to gank, not to power farm. This is why it is recommended that you lvl e first then w second. It's about having very strong early presence and getting yyour team ahead, then peeling and tanking for them in the late/mid game.
the main problem with this is that
his clears are slow (the other person will probably Gank a few times in advance, already tilting off your team)
if he Ganks early and the enemy has a damage JG (
etc) there is a very HIGH risk that in any kind of 2 v 2 in the JG or a counter JG skirmish that you'll give them a double kill and be HEAVILY set behind from that point on since Rammus brings no damage to the skirmish and only CC (while they've got 2 damage dealers).
If counter Jungled, he can do very little (see above), asking for your team's assistance MAY set your team behind in the ensuring skirmish and if you die alone because your caught out... then its very bad
In effect I tried him a few times in Ranked but except the games where I am allowed to Gank early without repercussions, usually it feels like conceding the early game
Chimpanturticorn1 votesI'm a jg main and I've never played rammus in a game before. However, based on his kit, I think his w is pretty helpful is clearing camps. That's about it though, because his q has a rather long cooldown and doesn't even deal that much damage to the camps.
Thales2251 votesThat's the price you pay to be the mortal enemy of every auto attack based hyper carry
Imperial Japan1 votesHonestly, I ended the game with double digit kill and assists with like 3 deaths but I still almost got one shot by Graves lategame with 300 armor. Still took ages to clear lategame, and can't tank for too long without getti anally raped