Please bring Old Sion back

HongChongDong··6 votes·2,825 views

I want old sion back because he mainly got removed after being called "Unhealthy" to gameplay by the sion haters but if that's the truth then I can name numerous champs who are way more unhealthy to gameplay than our little green pizza feet zombie. With the old Sion nobody i ever seen really played him to his full potential and either A. sucked hard with him or B. tried AP sion and did average with him so the whole thing with people saying he was OP/unhealthy was I'm guessing them looking at his ult and saying "Wow 100% life steal?!?!? wow gg lel op skillless champ plz nerf" or "You can heal all your HP back with 1 hit plz nerf" but in reality they never actually did anything note worthy with him. When I've seen others play Sion as I've said before it's either AP, Straight AD, or bruiser build but in harsh reality Sions old kit was not suited to any of these roles and here's my opinion as to why, 1st with AP he only had 2 damage spells leaving his ult and E to be left in the dust and while his Q and W did hurt his Q was purely single target and his W could easily be popped before he could activate it if more than 1 person was on him which then left him defenseless and you could say he could ult to live long enough for cooldowns but then he doesn't do enough damage to make the ult matter, 2nd is straight ad which is the least usefull out of all the options because if you go straight AD sure you're gonna do some decent damage but not enough to count because with his only way of catching his enemies being his Q you have to bring down their health as quickly as possible other wise they just escape from you. 3rd is the bruiser/tank path which is pretty bad because you have massive lack of both CC and damage to matter to the team in team fights when you build mostly tank items. So if no one even used him properly why rework him? From what I've seen sure his new kit while more in the meta with current gameplay is still making people play him almost as often as the old one, I've literally just saw someone play him for the first time sense his popularity spike right after the rework and the only reason this guy was playing him is because he had never played him before and wanted to see what he was like. What I'm also curious about is what do people mean by "Unhealthy"? If they mean OP then if people really thought he was OP then why was he one of the least played champions in LoL? If they mean his kit was useless then I'm here to tell you right now IMO he was the best split pusher in the game and the only top laner who was capable of countering him was nasus and that's only when the nasus knew exactly what he was doing. I'm not saying get rid of the new Sion because alot of people would still complain but all I'm saying is bring back the general idea of the kit in the form of a new champion, the things that should be kept are the ult and E those were completely fine but I do admit the W Q and passive could use some changes, so basically bring back the lifesteal carry that we love because I promise you if you gave the community a choice alot more people than you think would actually want him back but maybe with a slightly updated kit. Any way if you have read this far thank you for reading and if rito does read this why not consider it?

P.S. i kinda liked the old jokes they were cheesy but in a good way

EDIT- this post is getting down rated alot because I'm guessing alot of morons are simply reading the title and then saying "OMG I HATE THE OLD SION AND THIS SCRUB LIKES HIM"

24 Comments

AHeroNamedHawke3 votes

This version is much better

HongChongDong1 votes

I love the old version but it's not like I hate the new version infact I think the new version is awesome but the Old sion was my main and I personally want him back in the game BUT maybe with some updated abilities and visuals because the pizza feet did get old

Dryditch1 votes

Sounds like we're the only ones, friendo.

Old Sion mains were rare enough, and AD Sion mains were even rarer.

What kind of build did you run on him? Full tank?

HongChongDong1 votes

Full crit late game with full build (if the enemy team didn't surrender before then) I had 100% crit and I was doing around 600-800 k damage depending on the amount of armor they had and with ult I could heal for 100% of the damage dealt, It made him the king split pusher because he had massive AD and if you sent only 1 guy to try and go kill him your guy would get shrekt. the way I played him is kinda like nasus actually where I farmed for my E passive through early to mid game then when I had atleast 30% crit I would either kill who ever was in top lane or just run him out of lane and take tower

to sum it up I played him like a less mobile version of olaf except without tank and it always allowed me to carry hard if the enemy team didn't have a large amount of CC, but if they did Sion with his lack of mobility will get rekt hard

Neo Cyrus2 votes

Old Sion was cancer to the game and I couldn't wait until he was deleted. Thank fuck he's gone.

HongChongDong1 votes

And please explain why you believe him to be cancer?

Argomecha Perdix2 votes

Nope.

Old Sion was broken in so many ways. He was by no chance fun to play against, still, he was sorta fun to play as. Infinite stacking jungling Sion with SotAG was beast.

HongChongDong1 votes

But that's my point if he was simply removed because he was broken and annoying to play against then why not remove the other champs that are broken like poppy that are gonna win by default in laning?

Argomecha Perdix1 votes

I'm not entirely sure, but I think one of Riot's policies was to never REMOVE champions once they go live. Thus, if something is broken, they fix it. They never REMOVED Sion, they FIXED him (thank u Rito for the rework) because he was broken and undefined.

And you're right, Poppy, WW, Zilean and several other champs are broken; but they're all on Riot's Rework Radar: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Champion (Check the section UPCOMING CHAMPION UPDATES) Both Urgot and Poppy are in for a Sion-scale full relaunch (Actually one of the reds mentioned that Poppy's rework is the next in line a few days ago. Maybe I'll post the link to the thread later)

HongChongDong1 votes

again I'm not asking to change the champion itself I'm just suggesting bringing back the core mechanics of the out right badass king of lifesteal into a completely seperate champion , despite what some people might say on this post not a single person here can deny that the new sion is a far cry from what riot originally wanted him to be which was a dominating juggernaught that made the enemies fear him but instead we got a more difficult to use version of naut with a bit more AOE CC instead of single target CC

Puri Puri Taric1 votes

I dont think they will do and honestly he was just a relic from old point and click stun times like Taric. Taric would hav needed the remake much more than sion because he was highly playable and rewarding. Taric on the other hand is just a 1.2 sec stunn on legs.

HongChongDong2 votes

That's why I said if they do even consider the idea it's fine to change up most of his kit but his E and ult made him one of the best champs in the game so IMO i would keep those and simply change up the rest into something that fits better into the current meta of gameplay or atleast makes for some more interesting gameplay

lightdragoon881 votes

I don't understand...everything about old Sion is still here in the new Sion.

HP stacking, Shield, Lifesteal, stun.

Just that all his skills are useable now instead of just 2 depending on if you build AP or AD.

HongChongDong2 votes

The new passive is like the old Ult but completely useless because you now have to kill yourself to use it and the constant HP drain simply means that the life steal is only holding back your HP from draining on it's on not actually doing anything meaningful and the current sion can't carry no matter what you do while the old one when built properly could easily carry hard

XXXTheWariorXXX1 votes

I want the old sion!!!! Riot pleads i was maiming him until rework :(((

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Learn to paragraph. And it was tough considering what the hell to build him, AP? AD? Or hybrid? Also, he looks kind of boring, considering the fact that he seems useless in most fights when his Q & W are down as an AP mage champ, or hard to stick to champions as an AD when Q is down, since everyone despised item 3022 so much.

HongChongDong1 votes

he wasn't capable of making plays like a zed but he still required abit of skill with the champ to play sense as you said his only CC was his Q so to deal with enemies you had to build crit for damage and bait them into going all in and keep them into a fight they can't win

Torbjorn1 votes

Please bring old sion back:( I like the visual updates but why would you rework him to be really good then nerf him to be a OKAY but not as good as any other jungler/top laner. you turned him into a champ that requires so much effort just to keep up in the match and you can do very well but lose the game easily because he's not ass effective as other champs like WU/ww/udyr..etc also why the hell would you rework a champ from AA AD or AP burst into non of these, he's simply a tank and not even close to be the best or you can play him ad and still not close to be as good as the top 20 or you can play him for cc and he's still not even close to be the best. now, ofc updates are not to make champs op but I thought you updated him because the champ was dead and very few people played him? I bet you that there were more ranked games with sion before than now.

Chøsen Øne1 votes

WE WANT OLD SION BACK!!!!!

Around999People1 votes

Man I miss AD Sion... He was my main and I loved him. Honestly he was the best champ in game. Full AD build going for attack speed/ life steal. By end of game I averaged 500 basic damage, not counting crits, 2.0 attack speed, and 3-5k hp, and not to mention 156% life steal with ult on. It was beautiful. I remember winning a game of twisted tree line after my team mates leave the game cuz the enemy had like 20 kills on us. I just farmed under nexus tower and won a 1v3. Got so many Ace's on him it was just wow

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes
  1. How the heck did you find a 2 years old thread?

  2. Did you bad-mouthed something to me? Which kinda explains the deleted comment.

Around999People1 votes
  1. This was commented on like a few min before me and was on top of my recent tab.

  2. Deleted it because I saw it was 2 years old rofl. Basically said that old Sion never had trouble in team fights. Either he kills the front or the back, at least someone is dying and he'll live.

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