Mordekaiser toxicity is just a result of the ADC meta

KONO RUBICK DA··3 votes·764 views

ranged champions poke too hard ranged champions can't be poked by melee champions melee champions can't push against ranged champions

CertainlyT "ok let's make a champion who can push, poke, and sustain while having a dragon to siege and call it balanced because he is immobile"

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Matezoide5 votes

Mordekaiser just shows just how much random shit a melee champion needs in order to compete with ADCs.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

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Mordekaiser just shows just how much random shit a melee champion needs in order to compete with ADCs.

lol sadly this.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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Mordekaiser just shows just how much random shit a melee champion needs in order to compete with ADCs.

yea, i hope riot fixe the issue

Global Huff1 votes

I wouldn't really call it competing when he is far better than any of them almost 100% pick ban.

Abyssphere1 votes

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Mordekaiser just shows just how much random shit a melee champion needs in order to compete with ADCs.

I don't really agree. It shows how much an immobile melee champion with no crowd control needs to compete with ADCs. If they had tried shoving almost any other melee champion into the bot lane I think they would have had a much easier time of it, but Morde has no way to get onto ranged champions, and no way to bring them to him because he has no CC, so... they really had their job cut out for them when they decided he was a suitable bot lane carry.

Global Huff2 votes

Shouldn't a melee champion with no mobility or crowd control be countered by ranged/poke champions?

Melee champions can't poke ranged champions? Yes, obviously?

Ranged champions kite/poke melee champions. Melee champions have mobility/cc and generally stronger damage/tankyness to overcome this. This is like gaming 101.

There is a reason almost every melee champion in the game has a gap closer and/or CC. Morde essentially has neither. Of course his kit is going to have to be massively overloaded and gimmicky to overcome this and deal with ranged champions. Having a melee champion with no cc or mobility is just a stupid idea, it's like having an ADC with 300 auto attack range.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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Shouldn't a melee champion with no mobility or crowd control be countered by ranged/poke champions?

Melee champions can't poke ranged champions? Yes, obviously?

Ranged champions kite/poke melee champions. Melee champions have mobility/cc and generally stronger damage/tankyness to overcome this. This is like gaming 101.

There is a reason almost every melee champion in the game has a gap closer and/or CC. Morde essentially has neither. Of course his kit is going to have to be massively overloaded and gimmicky to overcome this and deal with ranged champions. Having a melee champion with no cc or mobility is just a stupid idea, it's like having an ADC with 300 auto attack range.

it isn't balanced, ranged champions always have a way to disengage except balanced adc like kog

luckmallory1 votes

Have yet to see a morde win a game. Im almost plat and every game he is in he feeds uncontrollably. Literally every time I ADC vs him i automatically know im getting fed

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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Have yet to see a morde win a game. Im almost plat and every game he is in he feeds uncontrollably. Literally every time I ADC vs him i automatically know im getting fed

just faced one today, was a nightmare. We won because rengar managed to oneshot him in a teamfight.

Ralanr1 votes

...HOW?!

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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...HOW?!

wait, you never saw rengar's burst?

Ralanr1 votes

I have never seen a good Rengar.

Maximum Morde1 votes

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Have yet to see a morde win a game. Im almost plat and every game he is in he feeds uncontrollably. Literally every time I ADC vs him i automatically know im getting fed

They are bad with morde or have a very piss poor support. It's that simple. Morde is very strong and can handle his new role just fine.

Stars Shaper1 votes

More likely: "Lets make a melee champion able to defend against poke and that punishes hard ranged champions that can't stay away from an immobile guy subsceptible to CCs"

I don't like how the thing was done but the idea behind it is fair and square. Ppl are used that there is still an escape if you get hardd CCed in melee range. Well flash news guys, you got to stay away, always.

Social Justice 11 votes

Morde does not have poke. He wouldn't have a lane phase if his heal-shield didn't eat the infinite poke a decent botlane would have against him.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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Morde does not have poke. He wouldn't have a lane phase if his heal-shield didn't eat the infinite poke a decent botlane would have against him.

ok i got it

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