Either matches are fixed or MMR calculations are wrong

DarwinTheory··4 votes·1,157 views

And before anyone says "you will climb if you're good enough"

  1. I'm not bothered about climbing. That's not my gripe.

  2. No one should have to 'grind' in a game that's designed to be competitive anyway.

Now, the matter at hand. Matchmaking, matchups and MMR.

It's still broken and unaddressed by RIOT. It's not even an issue with me caring about fixed matches as much as it's obvious they're fixed that's frustrating.

Clearly on the backend of the server's there's a database of some kind that formulates people's MMR every 12 or 24 hours or so and weights matched accordingly. It's just a really goddamn shitty to know you logged on one time and got a loss streak to know you can log on a little later and get a win streak whilst playing with my toes instead of my fingers.

And even in binge games there's such a huge gulf one game to the next sometimes and it's absolutely not all counters and op champs either. The skill gulf is just too fucking big between lane opponents in one game to the next.

So in a nutshell either the MMR system cannot calculate a person's skills correctly in which case the fucking thing is broken.

Or

Matchmaking is broken/fixed and not being addressed by the developer.

Why can't it be a game of "crap I was outplayed!" Or "ok, what mistakes did I make?" instead of this unfair unbalanced abomination I'm made to experience day after day?

7 Comments

haaaaaaalp4 votes

MMR does a fine job at calculating a person's skill. The problem is that a person's skill doesn't matter much in a hypersnowball meta. The problem is not matchmaking it is the meta. Games will never improve until the community realizes this and makes riot fix the meta. The longer we waste blaming matchmaking, the longer the problem will persist.

Kai Guy2 votes

HOW DARE YOU IMPLY GAMEPLAY IS FIXED BY GAMEPLAY CHANGES! HEATHEN!

Kai Guy3 votes

MyTeamRShyte 0/4/0 (0%) 652 damage in a 28 min game. DrMundo summoner 11 summoner 4

Tell me. How did the system know your going to not even do 1k damage to champions @ almost 30 min? Who did riot DEMAND on your team needed to lose because you where the jungler? How did MM know your the best player to give some one to force a loss?

I can see your EXP going up, your CS and Gold going up. Clearly not an AFK or DC.

Enlighten me, did Riot ask you to do this badly? Who was the target for putting you on their team here?

DarwinTheory1 votes

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MyTeamRShyte 0/4/0 (0%) 652 damage in a 28 min game. DrMundo summoner 11 summoner 4

Tell me. How did the system know your going to not even do 1k damage to champions @ almost 30 min? Who did riot DEMAND on your team needed to lose because you where the jungler? How did MM know your the best player to give some one to force a loss?

I can see your EXP going up, your CS and Gold going up. Clearly not an AFK or DC.

Enlighten me, did Riot ask you to do this badly? Who was the target for putting you on their team here?

I'll tell you:

I gave up.

What I should play unwinnable games or waste 40 mins of my life with abusers?

I know you.

You're a known forum alt-troll. You derails people's threads by changing the conversation and are a known fanboy. This thread is about matchmaking and MMR. Go waste your day typing messages in other threads and leave mine.

Kai Guy3 votes

You're a known forum alt-troll.

This is my main. I am open about that. I am abrasive and blunt but I make an effort to be transparent and accurate. I am not exactly kind to folks who make excuses that are provably bullshit. Hence me calling you out.

What I should play unwinnable games or waste 40 mins of my life with abusers?

https://imgur.com/a/MDTU9sz

Looks the the only thing making that game unwinnable was you. Same question buddy please Tell me. Who did Riot want to lose by putting you on their team? The 19 kill akali?

Or is it only rigged if your doing well and you got a teammate who gave up. How does Riot know when folks just gonna roll over for games prior to them being played?

Don't avoid it. I am giving you the numbers from that match. You did 652 damage. Level 1 mundo Q is a minimum 80 damage. You landed less then 10 level 1 Q's Nice work dude! What a contribution to a win. Shit...652 damage. Level 1 AD 61.27
You did not even auto them 20 times? Nice man. Great job. Id love you as a teammate. 40 damage a second for the toggle? Want me to count out the seconds needed? 28 min game and that's what YOU did.

Derail the thread? No. Your claiming Riot puts shitty players on teams to manipulate the result of matches. I am being on topic, I am talking about a provable case of 1 player losing their team a game, just happens to be cherry picked so YOUR the issue. So, tell me please how riot knew you would chose to intentionally do such an abysmal game? I am all ears. Explain away how you can give up and its your teammates fault but if a teammate gave up its riots fault. 652 damage in 28 min with out afking. That's what you did, and by your own admission you did so intentionally. Tell me why its ok for you to do so but if any one else ever played like that it would be Riots fault?

Seriously, Your saying "Now, the matter at hand. Matchmaking, matchups and MMR. It's still broken and unaddressed by RIOT. It's not even an issue with me caring about fixed matches as much as it's obvious they're fixed that's frustrating."

Tell me. Why would your teammates not feel like that game was fixed because they had a 0-4-0 jungler who gave up and did not break 1k damage in almost 30 min?

Why would is fine that you can give up and no one else can?

I am all ears buddy. Cuz if some one doing bad = Fixed matches... Why do you get a free pass and no one else can?

Darkdemon6533 votes

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  1. No one should have to 'grind' in a game that's designed to be competitive anyway.

What? That's what it means for a game to be competitive.

Also, you'd probably see better results if you learned to itemize properly. All of your builds are terrible.

Kai Guy1 votes

The # of folks who think skill is known magically with 0 data prior to games being played is pretty darn high.

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