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Yasuo is still stupid. And broken.

DarwinTheory··22 votes·2,876 views

With the end of season near I'm seeing alot of Yi and Yasuo smurfs boosting their buddies. I don't mind this because there's a 50% chance I will get one and I can just about handle them but it does remind me how broken Yasuo is. Let's look:

Knockup/cc via dash or tornado. Can engage from range via dash. Can disengage from melee via dash. Can poke you through minions like a ranged champ. Can clear a full wave faster than many. A shield from lvl 1 meaning he can fight you without worrying about his health before disengaging and replenishing it.

Let's take ranged minions for example too. You can control the minion wave and sit under your tower and go to last hit one and he can poke you through that minion without drawing aggro from the tower. And to hit him back you have to move AROUND the minion.....you may as well give him a gun and make him ADC.....

Add to this insane mobility. insane scaling. Highest or second highest ban rate across leagues. Toxic as hell to play against.

There's a reason people pick him to carry. And please don't anyone say at high Elo he isn't a problem because that means for 90% of players he is still a problem isn't he............. I'm fed up controlling Yasuo in game with an ark jungler on my team only for him to suddenly roam and get a quad kill on my idiot team mates and carry the enemy to a win.

Silly champion design. Just rework this POS champ please.

17 Comments

The Whamboozler4 votes

Yasuo isn't broken.

He is EXTREMELY stupid though.

Prestige Eve2 votes

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Yasuo isn't broken.

He is EXTREMELY stupid though.

Doesn't he power spike higher than almost any champion (excluding ADCs right now) with just one or two items thanks to his passive? Crit was always supposed to be a power spike you were supposed to build towards, which Yasuo does not have to. It doesn't matter if you completely destroy him in lane because his passive makes him as strong as a full crit pre-rework Gangplank once he gets IE and PD. And that's not even taking into account the rest of his kit. I just feel like he should have to work for it more, instead of getting it handed to him so easily.

wildfox992 votes

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Doesn't he power spike higher than almost any champion (excluding ADCs right now) with just one or two items thanks to his passive? Crit was always supposed to be a power spike you were supposed to build towards, which Yasuo does not have to. It doesn't matter if you completely destroy him in lane because his passive makes him as strong as a full crit pre-rework Gangplank once he gets IE and PD. And that's not even taking into account the rest of his kit. I just feel like he should have to work for it more, instead of getting it handed to him so easily.

it's not bad that he can outscale,the problem is he can even bully you in lane,what if a kassadin could destroy you in lane but still being a monster in lategame? i guess everyone would conplain

The Whamboozler2 votes

If this was true, his winrate would be better.

That said, his kit is extremely poorly designed. Playing against a Yasuo is a perfect storm of obnoxiousness. He ticks all the buttons to earn himself hate. Manaless AD caster-type. Incredibly strong scaling and hard-carry potential. Spammy abilities. Spammy mobility. Cock-block move to nullify your skills. Free stats galore. Obnoxious playerbase drawn of 70% teenage weebs and 30% rage-filled former Riven mains. Edgelord as hell... and not in the fun self-aware Reaper way. A shitload of skins while older champs languish with far, far fewer. And to top it all off, the SOB cannot be shut down permanently. He scales so hard that even Yasuo inevitably going 0/5 in lane because he plays like a complete idiot won't render him useless. A little CS and the mofo is leaping into teamfights, cleaning up and getting kills anyway. It's absurd.

Dude needs a rework. He's not broken he's just REALLY shitty in design.

Prestige Eve2 votes

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If this was true, his winrate would be better.

Winrate is only something you look at for sample sizes, not something you always take literally. There has been many cases throughout league history where a champ was sleeper unbalanced and had a low winrate, or played by so many people that the amount of bad players using the champion balanced out the winrate.

greysand1 votes

his win rate is shit basically because he is played by 2 types of player, monkeys that have the hand to eye reaction eficient enough to grab a coin that they just throw themselves, and monkeys that dont have that level of skill, i dont realy understand why champs that actually would be awesome if they hadnt that much damage dont get nerfed enought so you need to actually have skill to kill with them, i mean, yeah, making an insert with lee sin, or a nice play can be awesome, but you can still kill easily with his damage with no doing so, so why would you make the effort to actually git gud? , same happens with yasuo, you can kill someone in half second using the perfect combo of qwe and r in any ocassion, or smash everything and see what happens ,(usually you killed the guy that fight you in 1 vs 1 basically because he cant evade you and you have enough cd to counteract your lack of skill) hell, i play him from time to time just to let my 2 neuron relax for a bit, it works, i stop thinking, smash skills, and s+

DarwinTheory3 votes

And this isn't a salt post. I beat him in my last game.

The steam life6 votes

But it is tho because have of the things you mention are conditional and shouldn’t happen if you play correctly.

PhearBunny3 votes

The only way to beat Yasuo is to not give Yasuo kills. A Yasuo with items is like GP, simply unstoppable and impossible to deal with unless hes just ridiculously out of position and doesn't know wtf is going on.

ÐJ Šona3 votes

yasuo gave me clinical depression

i feel like yasuo players are the same as genji/hanzo mains in overwatch, they always flock to the ninja character because they're OP or "he looks so cool!!"

and they're almost always bm spammers, how many times have you played with/against a yasuo and they haven't flamed you in team chat, or said some really cocky things after getting a kill/an ace in all chat?

420 grams2 votes

I watched a video yesterday on tips to beat him and it was basically you might be able to fight him in the mid game if you set him behind, basically have your jungler duo lane with you, and don't let him hit any skill shots.

His kit is obviously overloaded, but imo I don't even think that's what makes him op. I think he's op because he situationally totally dominates some champions, while he himself doesn't have that happen. Example: look at him vs draven. Yasuo can catch him easily, he wins fights once on him, and he can completely negate his damage by throwing out windwall. Sure draven can just start a new axe, but he'll run out of mana having to sacrifice an axe everytime windwall is up. Then look at someone who should shut down yasuo like jax. Jax e dodges all incoming basic attacks, and yasuos q is treated as a basic attack, but it still hits through jax e. Sure jax can still win the match up, but not so much to the point yasuo has literally no damage and is useless like how yasuo can do to many champions.

wildfox992 votes

i hate how he can outrade you in almost any case,with his passive shield,throwing a windwall in your face,dodging with his E then AA you while chasing you almost under your tower and safely backing using his E on a caster minion avoiding a trade/gank (still you can't know on which units he dashed),not even a lux or orianna can zone that much in lane (and he's a lategame scaling melee champ,i'd expect from him to be like a kassadin from such kind of champion)

sure his windwall is too strong too,its hitbox is too big and i don't think i'm the only who saw a yasuo just sit near his windwall and attacking you while he's basically untargettable,it feels more like an area than a wall...thought it last too long when maxed (lower its CD with levels but not its duration?) another stupid interaction is with boomerang skillshoots like ekko's Q,why it just disappear? it make him safe even if he's not behind his wall since these ability have their power shifted on the way back,why don't they just make them bouncing on the windwall? :/

his main counterplay is his playerbase which greed and make big mistakes,but when you play vs a good yasuo you feel like the only way to don't lose your lane is hoping your jungler will play a duo mid and enemy jungler won't countergank

btw he may get nerfed next season,he got some stats buff on pbe then they reworked press the attack which become broken on him

Hovering Hentai2 votes

He's not broken but he is certainly overloaded and his kit allows him everything in damage defence and mobility

Handin Out Naps1 votes

Lol quality post, thnx for sharing.

DarwinTheory1 votes

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3405198029/40841219?tab=stats

I just had a Yasuo on my team. Penta kill to end game. We were never going to lose.

Anybody know how or where to go to get statistics on champions that most often get Pentas?

Angrychickén1 votes

He isn't broken.

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