Tristana isn't overpowered nor is she overtuned

Elohaven··4 votes·1,041 views

The meta is simply in her favor. She does not need a nerf.

People hate her W reset and ultimate. However, her kit has remained the same for quite a long time. She is only gaining popularity as other ADCs started to dwindle away due to nerfs and tuning.

Let's see what made her shine:

  • Lethality nerfs. Took Draven, Varus, Jhin, and other ADCs out of the equation for a bit. She could not survive the lethality meta.
  • Caitlyn nerfs with runaans and her traps. It made other ADCs look for the next safest thing, which was Tristana.
  • This is a "peel" meta. Ardent Censer, tanks, heals, and shields are all helping Tristana with her additional safety. Thus, it's not a problem with her kit design but rather how well her kit fits the meta right now.
  • Tristana has not been in the game for a while and people still forget you don't want to fight her when she places a bomb on you - a squishy.

These things have never changed:

  • You can still CC her when she jumps unlike some mobility abilities or wall jumps.
  • Her abilities have high cooldowns if she doesn't utilize her kit. People don't pay that much attention to this other than higher elos.
  • Her burst is delayed due to her bomb. So it is also quite easy to kill her before she focuses on the team.
  • Her W doesn't stop point-and-click abilities. Assassins can still easily one-shot her.
  • She's immobile for 16 seconds if she hops and doesn't get a kill. Plus, she's slow so Youmuus to get that booty if she hops or Rs away.

Every meta has a champion that fits well. It's not the champion. It's the situation around them. Like Ardent Censer with Janna and Soraka.

13 Comments

Teémò2 votes

You can zhongya's her ultimate which puts it on cooldown well not taking any damage. You can ekko or liss ult etc. invulnerable to do the same effect. She can mess up her E or ultimate and put it on a minion by accident which can screw her over. And unlike other champs with ults that hit other units surrounding them. LeeSin Orianna Vi They will take no damage at all. Except for the E bomb damage.

So in truth her kit isn't as great as people see it. Having a zhongya block both your E and ults damage makes you non existent when fighting better players.

AmetDeCrypt1 votes

I've always had a problem with her kit, it's up there with kayle competing for "most obnoxious point and click kit in the game" never said she was op, just too simple and her massive range is both offensive and defensive because she can jump in and burst you down on a moments notice as well as having hyper dps for many stages of the game.

quite obnoxious you see.

Elohaven1 votes

Then how come it wasn't an issue for last season as well?

AmetDeCrypt1 votes

it was. I've always despised kassadin. him and irelia anyway.

Elohaven1 votes

We're talking about Tristana. Not Irelia, Kass, and Kayle.

AmetDeCrypt1 votes

whoops, wrong thread

but yeah same point, she's in that category of "point and click death" champions that I supremely dislike even if they aren't overpowered or even remotely strong, and riot sorta feels the same way with their simple kits making them balance nightmares.

bloom1 votes

The problem is item 3087 + item 3094 as core for her, and fact that item 3031 increasing shiv's crit dmg, those things gives her both sick burst dmg vs squishy champions and high sustain dmg wich makes Tristana simply unhealthly for game, also her powerspike appears pretty earlier than before (now is as soon as you finish item 3087 + item 3031) . Imo she is in good spot (her skillset/statistics scaling), only her bulid path makes her so strong at the moment. If stattik's passive wouldn't stack anymore with firecannon's, tristana would back to her former spot of late game hiper carry (where she belongs). Since there will be no replacement for warlord's bloodlust (wich works in the way old one worked) in new runes you can just make energized effect unique (do not stack with any other) and problem of ad carries as pseudo-assassins would disappear (of course not at all until Vayne exists :c).

King of Demons1 votes

Every other champion got nerfed, nothing that keeps her down is particularly strong right now AND she is one of the best ADCs to get two Zeal items on, she simply loves that. So yes, she is overtuned right now for those reasons compared to the rest.

Elohaven1 votes

Overtuned does not mean the meta just fits her.

Overtuned is literally defined as designed to be hard to compete against. If she was, then she would have been meta a long time ago.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

shes overtuned because she deals too much damage for her safety even by herself.

you have to stop and think about the amount of self peel she has in her kit stacked on top of each other. her long auto attack range paired with a resetting mobility tool and a point and click disengage. tristana is probably the safest adc in this game.

does this sound like a champion to you who should deal high dps? no. thats why they should have never buffed her q.

lets not forget, that this happened not too long ago before she bacame meta.

V7.3 Rapid Fire Duration increased to 7 seconds from 5.

stack this on top of the other indirect buffs to adc items and support protection and you have an overtuned champion.

One Ashe On1 votes

She was like this for a long time but her main counter got hard nerfed she wasn't overtuned back then and still ain't. Her counter got nerfed.

Veraska1 votes

Almost every champion in the game becomes overpowered through changes that happen around them, that doesn't mean they don't get nerfed when they're performing too well

Schenix1 votes

Having a ranged Lee Sin is alright as long as it isn't Lee Sin.

But in a better note: She's an incredibly safe ADC with turret taking potential second to only Jinx, waveclear even when she doesn't want it half the time, and decent damage with marvelous scaling range to practice it. She is a frustrating champion when it's strong and underwhelming when she isn't required. That's more the annoyance in the macro scheme.

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