Idea to nerf Garen

Glîtchy··3 votes·431 views

So people say Garen's balanced or underpowered but I prefer to look further into it,

his ult has 2 passives, 1. is like a built in black cleaver, and the other is true damage on autos when attacking "the villain", so how exctly are we supposed to beat him? I mean c'mon, he just ults to win EVERY FUCKING 1v1.

his speed boost, it goes without saying that his speed boost is probably one of the most insane mobility boosts, in the sense that it's practically spammable, it activates like every 2 seconds, thus making it impossible to escape him.

and 3rd of all, one of his abilities has the passive of granting MORE defensive stats up to 30% additional at max grade.

and lastly, his regular passive which gives him boosted regen outside of combat and it reaches RETARDED levels of regen rate, you can basically just sit under turret after a 1v1 and not have to recall, you'll regen at practically the same damn speed.

plus along with the ability passive adding more defensive stats, it makes him tanky enough that he only needs item 3742 to avoid most damage and then curb stomp you, if anything I don't see why people say Yorick is more broken than the other juggernauts when he can't burst like the others with his ult.

How to nerf Garen,

remove either the villain or BC-like passive effect from his ult, as both make insane amounts of damage occur without much effort.

reduce the regen rate outside of combat, as this makes him have no need to EVER recall except for buying new items.

extend cooldown on his speed boost, I mean c'mon, Juggernauts are supposed to be immobile, not moving as fast as Hecarim on a sugar high.

and yes I'm ready for the bias "Garen's balanced git gud", everyone said this about tank Fizz and AP Rengar, and look how those turned out.

16 Comments

Evil Yasuo3 votes

Here's what should also happen... REMOVE THE F*CKING SILENCE

Glîtchy1 votes

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Here's what should also happen... REMOVE THE F*CKING SILENCE

YES! Where the ACTUAL FUCK does it even fit in with his kit? a guaranteed crit from it instead would make more sense honestly

DarwinTheory2 votes

Jesus wept shut up!!!!! His win rate is laughably below average and no one at high elo plays him!!

Want to beat Garen? Pick Darius and make him cry.

Alternatively DONT MELEE vs him!!!!! KIte him.

And I will also remind you for 5 years his silence was 2.5 seconds instead of the 1.5 now and he was never OP then

Glîtchy1 votes

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Jesus wept shut up!!!!! His win rate is laughably below average and no one at high elo plays him!!

Want to beat Garen? Pick Darius and make him cry.

Alternatively DONT MELEE vs him!!!!! KIte him.

And I will also remind you for 5 years his silence was 2.5 seconds instead of the 1.5 now and he was never OP then

Kinda hard when my main top laners are Yorick and Kled, there are like 0 top laners that are marksman

RogueWill1 votes

Yorick stomps garen..... everytime. I don't know how are you playing your lane if you get beaten by garen.

Also as marksman top laners: Gnar Teemo Quinn Gangplank (he is melee but you basically play him as ranged with barrels and pistols) Heimerdinger Kayle Kennen Lulu etc....they exist.

TEA Nietzsche 2 votes

tl;dr:

  • remove his true dmg or his arpen (I take it you mean his E and not his ult passive?)
  • remove his silence
  • increase Q cooldown
  • nerf passive

MHHHHH

Garen is barely strong in bronze and absolutely terrible above so you wanting to nerf him in a way that would even gut Cho'Gath if he was nerfed like that seems.. Like you have barely any idea how the game works.

Glîtchy1 votes

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tl;dr:

  • remove his true dmg or his arpen (I take it you mean his E and not his ult passive?)
  • remove his silence
  • increase Q cooldown
  • nerf passive

MHHHHH

Garen is barely strong in bronze and absolutely terrible above so you wanting to nerf him in a way that would even gut Cho'Gath if he was nerfed like that seems.. Like you have barely any idea how the game works.

Sorry I should've clarified, apply ONE of the changes I listed is what I meant to type as well.

TEA Nietzsche 3 votes

Doesn't change that he still needs buffs more than nerfs.

Glîtchy1 votes

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Doesn't change that he still needs buffs more than nerfs.

I'll need to confiscate those drugs of yours, they're messing with your brain

TEA Nietzsche 4 votes

He has a 47% winrate in diamond so when I say that he seems pretty trash then it's based on my experience and confirmed by facts.

In silver he has a 52% winrate which is certainly good, but even for the more experienced players he never reaches 56% which is not above decent. And seeing how he is supposed to be good in low elo.. He is just alright as of right now but he is still a shitty champion as his dia winrate proves.

That's why I say that he'd rather need buffs although he may be alright. But what he 100% does not need is nerfs. Frankly, seeing how statistics and people here contradict your opinion you should probably consider that you are the one on drugs.

Glîtchy1 votes

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He has a 47% winrate in diamond so when I say that he seems pretty trash then it's based on my experience and confirmed by facts.

In silver he has a 52% winrate which is certainly good, but even for the more experienced players he never reaches 56% which is not above decent. And seeing how he is supposed to be good in low elo.. He is just alright as of right now but he is still a shitty champion as his dia winrate proves.

That's why I say that he'd rather need buffs although he may be alright. But what he 100% does not need is nerfs. Frankly, seeing how statistics and people here contradict your opinion you should probably consider that you are the one on drugs.

Well if Yorick's supposed to "shit on him" how come Garen does SO MUCH more than Yorick can inflict?

TEA Nietzsche 1 votes

Who said that? Seems that the matchup itself is rather even as both have a 50% winrate in it.

Overall Yorick has a better winrate in every single elo so he is simply a stronger Garen. I am afraid you feeling otherwise doesn't trump facts.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

mate, they just buffed him because he sat at almost 40% winrate for month.

after his buffs, hes barely average in strength now overall. if you actually did some research on that and not just happened to read up on his tooltips to list his kit, youd have known that.

hes not going to get nerfed any time soon, just because you personally have trouble dealing with him. if you want to learn how to beat him, i suggest playing at least 20 to 50 games with him to get a feel for his kit and his windows of weakness.

One Ashe On1 votes

Other than 3v3 and under plat 1, you won't see alot of successful garen thanks to his binary kit.

Joxcab1 votes

Garen

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needing nerfs

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Lyseth

Oh that explains it.

Can you stop [----]posting?

Glîtchy1 votes

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Oh that explains it.

Can you stop [----]posting?

Don't you have some salt post to make on Tumblr right about now?

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