low mobility over-nerfed requires peel and god like positioning along with team work.. ap kog on the other hand kills everything before they reach him can we buff his ADC aspects ? perhaps a soft rework like ashe
Tyroneology1 votesAs you said Ap Kog is in a good position as far as viability and AD Kog is having some issues. Both of these are true except for the fact that AD Kog is one of the strongest late game ADC's. Its going to be hard to give him specific buffs to just the ADC side without AP kog benefiting. I do not believe he requires a rework at the current moment and is completely viable but has a higher skill cap than some other ADC's.
53436278DEL11 votesAs you said Ap Kog is in a good position as far as viability and AD Kog is having some issues. Both of these are true except for the fact that AD Kog is one of the strongest late game ADC's. Its going to be hard to give him specific buffs to just the ADC side without AP kog benefiting. I do not believe he requires a rework at the current moment and is completely viable but has a higher skill cap than some other ADC's.
when i play ap kog i win most of the time but when i go ad kog i will lose guaranteed and every time i adc i autolock him lol he is one of the strongest yes but he is the weakest out of the late game champs ADCs . in all honesty he has no real ad scaling besides his ult his passive is meh and his W is on a 15 second cool down sure he gets strong once he gets tri force but jinx and vayne are strong level 1 thanks to the inherent nature of the kits they possess. i even feel like varus is a stronger late game adc then him
Tyroneology1 votesIf you think Varus has a stronger late game you're not playing Kog right no offense.
Now he isn't in the best spot but as far as early and mid game but late game Kog is a monster.
53436278DEL11 votesIf you think Varus has a stronger late game you're not playing Kog right no offense.
Now he isn't in the best spot but as far as early and mid game but late game Kog is a monster.
i'm aware of his tri force boost and his range steriod but i feel varus outsclasses because he actually has % health damage while not as strong as kog maw it still is part of his kit plus he all his skills are team fight oriented and have tons of utility all while benefiting from ad unlike kog jinx i feel is also stronger then kog thanks to her passive and attack speed
DrNova1 votesKog is not one of the weakest late game adc's. This simply is not true.
He just has arguably THE hardest path to late game.
Chuck Charles1 votesAd kog is fine. His dmg output is absolutely insane. Probably the best in the game for single target come late game
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Ad kog is fine. His dmg output is absolutely insane. Probably the best in the game for single target come late game
hi jinx hi vayne hi varus
Chuck Charles1 votesSingle target jinx does far less dmg than kog. Try to duel a full build ad kog late game as any of those champs and get back to me. Vayne ulting is probably only champ who can take kog and that's it.
Fiveofswords1 voteslate game?vayne with ult still will usually lose (if kog avoids getting wall stunned). only champ that can 1v1 kog maw late game is someone with stun like lissandra or something
53436278DEL11 voteslate game?vayne with ult still will usually lose (if kog avoids getting wall stunned). only champ that can 1v1 kog maw late game is someone with stun like lissandra or something
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Fiveofswords1 votesnot kidding. next time u find yourself 1v1 against vayne, assuming you guys are nearly equal in items, and she ult attacks you, try jsut attacking back. throw a artillery on her, you will totally win and be like wow i didnt expect that.
Fiveofswords1 votesi do just fine as kog maw in solo q. You actually dont need peel...if someone tries to 1v1 u then u just kill them before they kill you...kogs damage output is high enough even against tanky champs that you can do that. Since running away is not his strong point, stop trying to run away. if u want kog to duel a bit better, try getting wits end for his attack speed. the mr shred combined with %max health magic damage means u can do serious damage to tanky champs like garen etc so you will ultimately win toe to toe if you simply attack...and also the magic resist protects him against ap assasin types like kat or leblanc so that he lives jsut long enough to kill them.
Bootleg Gay1 votesKog'Maw is fine. His long range is really awesome for self peel, and his ult is constant damage. He's not super good against certain champs, but his bonus range, magic damage and true damage back up plan, he's pretty nice to play as.
Beoridas1 votesnerfed? when was the last time he got even into a patch? Btw: hes not weak in solo queue. What you do mean however is low tier solo queue players. sure. Dont forget that even if your team dont set you up or peel for you, the enemy can do just as dumb decisions as them.
Rysophage1 votesI agree. I main adc and everytime i kinda wanna play kog, i realize that no1 will peel for me and I probably won't win lane. why play kog when vayne does pretty much the same thing while not being a sitting duck?
Lugg1 votesKog destroys solo q if you are good with him. You just have to survive early game long enough to get 
and then you start carrying. You can even have a bad early game and come back thanks to his W's % health damage.