The only people who want tahm nerfed are vi and zed mains
Tell me i am wrong
Tell me i am wrong
There are people that want him nerfed?
my friend is a vi and zed main and rages really hard when he is getting picked xD
He was one stone throw away form tossing his computer out of the window last game
Tahm needs to be right next to his teammate to save them. He needs to remember this when picking his targets.
There are people that want him nerfed?
I'd be equally surprised if this is true. Tahm is REALLY good at one thing (protecting people he wants to keep safe), only okay to meh at everything else
I'd be equally surprised if this is true. Tahm is REALLY good at one thing (protecting people he wants to keep safe), only okay to meh at everything else
32% max HP damage Low CD hard CC that doesn't consume his passive High bases all around and a massive shield Bonus HP scaling damage on every attack/ability High roam potential
ya he doesnt do anything else xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
His grey shield could use a bit of tweaking, but other than that I think he is relatively fine. Bit early to tell though
And Tahm mains want Kalista to get nerfed
"NOOOOOOO!!! HE WAS IN MY BELLY!!!!"
Every sensible person playing this game wants Kalista destroyed. It's not exclusive to Tahm players.
Even her own supports. (>_>)
This is to true.
Every sensible person.....except people who like running
botlanes.
Devour lane opponent, get kalista to ult into your friendly tower, grab a free kill. Very fun stuff.
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I'm a maokai jungle main and i want the cooldown on his shield to increase he's cancer
Edit: Looking at the numbers the cooldown is fine however the duration of the active isn't ideally it should be reduced to last 3-4 seconds 4 being the most reasonable 3 being preferential.
honest question, what happens if he eats the target of your root? Does Maokai just. . . stay. . . untargetable?
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honest question, what happens if he eats the target of your root? Does Maokai just. . . stay. . . untargetable?
He stops traveling
I don't think he's wildly overpowered, but after playing a few games with him, I do think he'll probably see nerfs in the near future.
W is extremely versatile and powerful. His E makes him insanely tanky. And he deals decent sustained damage without having to invest in offense.
I like him, but I would be very surprised if he doesn't get nerfed in the next few months. If nothing else, I think this guy is going to be insane in high level competitive 5v5.
The ult alone is probably worth picking him in competitive. Suddenly anyone can be pantheon, but with more Cajun food.

Why would Leona care? Her goal is to lock down the ADC anyways. If Tahm eats them, she's still done her job and can just wait until they're regurgitated.
He can just spit them out after a second or two then go in on leona.
Since, you know, leona has cooldowns.
Psychic is x4 no one uses croagunk
And his abilities are shit.
And his abilities are shit.
Tanky AP tahm does ALOT of damage if you let him eat you and his Q is also decent poke. Does great damage in long fights (passive stacking)
I can't facepalm hard enough at this.
Thanks man.
Ugh. He isnt op at all. He is a good champ.
It feels like no one wants champs to be released that are any good, they want only mid teir champs released so that nothing makes their mains harder to play
Ugh. He isnt op at all. He is a good champ.
It feels like no one wants champs to be released that are any good, they want only mid teir champs released so that nothing makes their mains harder to play
Nailed it.
I made you something
actually no i think everyone will want him nerfed once people get play him he is to good at what he does and will become a major annoyance later on. Zed and vi mains are not the only ones who will want him nerfed trust me u to will want him nerfed
what he is good at is the same thing as what soraka used to be good at. protecting one person, it's not cancer because while the person is safe they can't attack you, but it makes you have to start playing champs that are more flexible during the engage, personal suggestion, Play mages that do their burst in an aoe, so tahm can't just screw your whole single target combo.
Every assasin main will just permban Tahm anyways. And I can understand that to a certain point. Sorry but Soraka isn't a tank dealing massive damage while being the best peeler in the game who also has the best travel ult in the game.
Don't forget
mains
I had one on my team say it was a "bug" that he could eat the person he hooked while the hook was there.
As a special case, Tahm should become affected by the hook in this case, like real fish swallowing bait. :)
What in tahm's kit makes him particularly good against vi and zed?
Honestly, i just think his ult can't be balanced. Look at how much TF pays for his ultimate. Now TK gets to carry a friend with him? Seems pretty OP to be able to send a tank and your adc/apc halfway across the map.
Teleport top rek'sai jg twisted fate mid TK support any adc
Full team can tele almost anywhere. That potential sounds scary.
As an adc I'd think he's op because he's going to make it really hard to get kills in Lane by just eating his ally...
If Vi or Zed ulti anything, Tahm can eat the person and prevent it from hitting.
So... they're just mad that they can be countered is what you're saying.
Their 50+ long CD is countered by a 10s ability that's instant and can be used as long as he's next to his partner, which he should be.
We welcome him
To the club!
Both of those have to be perfectly timed, plus there aren't many ults they can actually block since most aren't skill shots. There's a few like Cait's R, Ez's R, and a few others, but that just means they need to be timed well. You can't 'time' your ult well with Vi or Zed against Tahm since Tahm's version of cockblock is a 10s CD, down to 6s, plus his also isn't required to actually do anything. It's not something you use as utility for your team compared to Braum or Yasuo pressing their walls to block a lot of damage. Tahm pretty has a 6-10s CD Zhonya's for his partner while also giving himself a huge speedboost.
Now, I'm fine with there being proper counterplay to Vi, but Zed already had a few methods, mainly a QSS that only costs 1250 to begin with and you just removed his entire execution. Vi can't be QSS'd, she can't be stopped, and it's targeted and has decent range.
But those two aren't the only complainers about Tahm. Every. Single. Burst. Champion. Ever... is complaining about Tahm. He is the biggest denial ever. Bard has a cast time, Fizz's is part of his damage combo and has a high mana cost, Yi's requires an enemy near him, Shaco's takes incredible timing... Tahm just presses W. Nothing special. Not combing anything, not skill shotting, just pressing a button within 250 range. It's scary how good it is!
has a 10 sec CD as well.... Both of the walls can protect multiple people, not just one.
Both of those have to be perfectly timed, plus there aren't many ults they can actually block since most aren't skill shots. There's a few like Cait's R, Ez's R, and a few others,
Sona, Nami, Braum, Jinx, Draven, Ashe, Graves, Corki, Lucian, MF, Trist, Varus, Brand, Kat, Gragas, Riven, Irelia, Syndra, Ahri, Heimer, Sej, Swain, Fizz, Azir, Talon, and Veigar.
But you're right. That's not many at all. Just about all of the ADCs (when are you ever going to run into those bot eh?), some strong CCs, and some powerful Assassin and Mage ults known for doing tons of dmg.
only problem with that is that Vi's Ult only gets a 5-10 second cooldown if she never reaches her ult's target. dunno about zed.
I'm a Vi main and I havent played her a single time in any of my games today and I still think he needs a nerf.
but to his grey shield. being able to get 100% of the damage he's taken in "x" combat time packed back on as a shield is too much.
for a level 1 spell.
lets be honest. with his kit at late game i think its fine. at lvl 6 setting up a gank with a jungle and he just gets to grey shield and eat his carry away is BS.
Guess the Zed and Vi have to actually plan when to use their ult instead of just rushing in then. Just like how you don't blow your ult on someone with a spell shield up, you force them to use their defense prematurely and then abuse the window of opportunity.
or you just could get
top
Upvoted just for the Croagunk image
You should add Tryndamere to this list. Have completely dominated all Tryndameres as top-lane Tahm every time.
His E is ridiculous. Like how did that get through testing. He heals for a certain amount of damage taken so he can just sustain in lane forever. Then if you're getting bursted then just press E and you just doubled your HP.
He'll be ridiculously tanky and just do tons of damage because his ult let him scale with his max HP

Tahm's E is his thick skin ability. It does no damage, can be cast whenever he wants to (unsure if he cast it if he has full hp but why would you want to do then?) and it heals a large % of the damage taken. I think your talking about his W but that's only a poke tool if he eats a minon.
sorry, your right. I meant W.