Arguments that Janna is too strong, not a circlejerk post

Good or bad argument? If it's bad, then poke holes in it. I have made threads regarding Janna's strength before, but I feel this post encompasses most of the argument so I am reposting it for visibility. I hope to promote discussion instead of a circle jerk.

First of all, I'm not a yolo zed yasuo diver. I play split pushers and tank support. But it shouldn't even matter what I'm playing... > > Second, Janna can turn the tide of a game with just one good ult. Janna and blitz do different things. But Janna is much more reliable and comes with no risk. I'd also argue she does it better than blitz but that's debatable. > > Third, if your adc is a potato you're not winning no matter what support you pick, so please don't act like having bad teammates is a Janna only weakness. Sure on blitzcrank you can go and camp your midlaner and leave your adc. You can also do the same with Janna and ensure that your midlaner scales into the late game by making sure he's safe. If your adc is a potato no amount of spoonfeeding will win the game. Having bad teammates is a weakness for every champion so we shouldn't consider it as a factor in comparisons. > > Fourth, according to you winrate is not a measure of power. It's just an indicator of how a champion is doing. My argument for this is okay, let's assume that you're right about that. That means Janna has been the best or close to the best support since her creation. In every meta. To me, that's indicative of a problem. When one champions outshines everything else for so long, it's obvious that champion is much stronger than the cast. You deny that Janna is too strong (btw don't use quotation marks to show you don't believe what you're saying, that's not what they're for), but then you turn around and say that all supports should be brought up to her level. This tells me that you know she's stronger than other supports. > > Fifth, yes I agree Janna is not fun to play as. Even when i save carries it's still pretty boring. Why should Janna remain strong just because she and other defensive supports are boring? Does that mean fun champions should be weak? Fallacy yes, but I'm very confused about this point. Isnt the ideal scenario this? All champs are viable at all MMR, and every champion is fun to play as and against. If this is the ideal, and we agree Janna is pretty boring to play as and against, then she needs changes to be closer to the ideal. > > Sixth, yes Janna is entirely reactionary. (Not really but enough so that I'll give you this one.) I think that reactionary champions should have a place in this game. There is a problem though, when reactionary champions absolutely beat out proactive champions without counterplay. Now I don't know if she absolutely blocks divers and assassins without counterplay, but if she does then it's a problem. There should be something an assassin or diver can do against Janna other than baiting out her ult, which only works on bad Jannas. Her consistently 50+% winrate leads me to believe that her reactionary abilities are in general stronger than other champions' proactive abilities, and that she lacks viable counterplay. > > Now there are three options. One, nerf Janna and introduce some counterplay such that she drops to a balanced winrate. Two, don't touch her. Three, give every support champion enough of a buff that Janna returns to 49-51% winrate, which I would say is a very balanced winrate. > > Personally I like the first option. It fixes the problem of Janna being too strong without being too complex. It can be done within one patch and with minor disruption to the meta. > > Here's a little suggestion. Nerf Janna's hp regen and nerf the duration of her shield. This forces Janna to time her shields better, and it means poke is a viable counter to Janna. If this lowers her winrate too much, then a small ratio buff on her q might be warranted.