It always has been. League is meant to be a team-game where you shouldn't solo-carry. Even in the ADC meta, supports and team utility is needed to peel the ADC.
If you go into a game, and your team has little to no CC - you deserve to lose the game. Team Comp will always be an important and great factor for League.
Oh...
...The new Xin Zhao ultimate really emphasizes your need for it.
Ben Sharpio8 votesFor anyone who needs help with team comp i am here to help you:
Step 1: Pick janna/lulu/soraka/rakan
Step 2: Nothing else fucking matters anymore once you have these champs
PePsiLemoNN14 votesThen why doesn't Janna/Lulu have 100% winrate? :^)
nice table15 votesbecause sometimes janna is played into lulu and vice versa : ^)
BALDG1VEN BOOMER6 votesCause neither have 50% play rate.
But anyways to the people down voting him it was complete satire fyi.
Skins Project1 votesHard to tell, look in his post history this is all he does.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesBecause janna is banned in 60% of all games in diamond.
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Knoyle1 votes[{quoted}](name=Squishy Support,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mhpVzOjx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-17T15:21:46.283+0000)
it doesn't matter if every player in game is legitimately Bronze V
ftfy
Pumping Iron2 votesplayers>comp always
Thefrostyviking2 votesBut then what happens if both sides are roughly equal in skill?
If one side uses their massive teamfight ability to plow right into your inhibs 1 by 1 then how can you do anything if you have a snowball team that didn't get a big enough lead because the enemy team grouped early?
Teamcomps are huge deal in any moba, and while it's not a absolute end if the enemies have a good comp it can make certain things harder, or even a lot harder. Comp VS Comp is always something the pro´s are thinking about when it comes to selecting their champion pools.
ProtoMMXVII1 votesTrue. On my other account I had a game with three assassins, a non-scaling ADC, and a non-enchanter support vs Janna + two tanks + scaling AP and a lethality ADC, but we won because of constant splitting and the fact that none of the assassins could get caught.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesIt doesn't matter anywhere in soloq.
DuskDaUmbreon5 votesThank you!
So many people think the game's winnable as 5 people, and not as a team. They think they can solo carry.
People don't seem to realize that this can only happen in low bronze. You're not solo carrying the team at any other tier. Not Plat, not Gold, not Diamond, not Silver...Not even high Bronze. You can't solo carry past Bronze 3. It's just not possible.
SH Azykan1 votesyou 100% can solo carry in high bronze get fed get team fed win game
solo carry doesnt mean you can win with 4 inters (though theoretically it is possible) but you can still be the only one doing well and carry the game through shotcalling and macro decisions on top of just being better than the enemies.
now here is the thing though 1 silver player that is actually silver skill is not going to solo carry every game, because they are playing with AND against people around their skill for the most part. nor is even a gold skill player going to solo carry every game. because there are going to be outliers in their games that make them lose and they can get matched against others who are better than their rank as well. But a gold skill player over the course of time will definitely win more than lose if they play to their best consistently and will climb to where they belong. Depending on their style of how they can carry it might take a lot of games, or just a few. A Katarina 1 trick better than their elo is most likely going to out climb a diverse pool support main better than their elo. (kat main will likely hit their limit on climbing before said support main would though)
GayFluffyUnicorn2 votesAh that's why i solo carry my smurf from silver 4 to plat 2 with 70% WR.
LXII2 votesI'm only a Gold player (maybe Plat if I played more but who knows) and consistently solo carry all 3 of my accounts to Gold... So idk where you got this information from.
xxxDogmanxxx1 votesI prefer solo-feeding instead of solo-carrying. If I'm solo-feeding, that means the rest of my team are carrying and I don't have to do jack.
WoonStruck2 votesYeah, sure tell me you can't solo carry past bronze when I do it up to plat, and if I had better judgement, could do it up to masters, maybe even higher like several other people have.
Solo queue is not nearly as much of a team game as you think. Its about knowing how to get the most gold on yourself as possible, which sometimes happens to include your team. It only really becomes a 'team game' past 30 minutes.
A good team comp is only consistently beneficial if you are at the MMR you belong at, which the large majority of players are not, since they don't play enough.
But if you play enough, you climb regardless, so even many of those players are not at the MMR they belong at.
Elohaven3 votesFactor means a component which results into a product. Yes, you can carry a majority of the game. However, can you 1v5 that whole team and the game? No. You hardly can every single game. Perhaps 1 out of 1000.
Carrying just means you're relieving most of the burden from your team. It doesn't mean you are the only person on the team.
You can carry in all elos.
SanKakU2 votesDaily reminder that giving up can be falsely justified for any excuse, including team compositions being "unfavorable".
GULAG 4 U2 votesYes it matters, but getting a good teamcomp over having teammates playing champs they're good at is not a good idea.
The Yetii Rider2 votesI don't care how good you are at Zed, if you can't stop a Katarina from just pressing R, and neither can anyone else on the team, you're going to lose the game. That's how certain champions like Katarina, Nidalee, Master Yi and Tryndamere are balanced.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes"please pick tank top"-riven jungle "err how about no"-me picking gp. 25 mins later "wow what a god, gp 1v9"-riven after getting freelo from me.
KETSU01 votesFuck that!! if the game truly comes down to that then i'll just quit while i'm ahead. Games should not be decided at champ select. I find it really disgusting how you fuckers always preach about how this a team game but in the same breath say the composition decides it all. True team games are when you work with your team IN the game to get the win not the opposite.
OMGSoAnnoying6 votesSometimes it is decided at champ select... or at least the win condition is. If you don't meet your comp's win condition, you're usually fooked.
Enemy team takes all AD and/or all squishy, your team takes Rammus and Galio? Come team fight time, if your team is at least even, they're TOAST. Your tanks simply suck damage and taunt like hell while your carries go nuts.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2599690132/228581677?tab=overview as an example.
Up to 30 minutes, the game is somewhat even in terms of kills, and gold is never massively ahead. But after 30 minutes? Team fight win, inhib and Baron. Second team fight win? Game. Jinx spent a lot of time split pushing simply because she'd get taunted in team fights and bursted. Quinn would dive in, woops, taunt, bursted. Their comp HAD TO SNOWBALL to win, and couldn't do it.
ChuShoe1 votesnew xin zhao ultimate really seems absolutely busted. For a huge damage dealer, something that makes him completely immune to any damage sucks. People complain about lesbian fish (fizz) E, nobody is gonna protest this?
Elohaven1 votesHis ult is easily counterable unless you're a squishy/ADC. It only would last about 7 seconds if Xhin is even lucky or fed. In reality, you'll CC him to stop the ult and he can be damaged within his circle. It also only works on ranged abilities.
LXII1 votesIt also only works on ranged abilities.
I'm not sure this is true.. It sounds true because logically anything outside of his circle would be a "ranged ability", but I'm pretty sure he just doesn't take damage from ANYTHING unless the champ doing said damage is within the circle. It even blocks Karth ult.
Just to clarify we'll use Darius ult as an example. He has to be melee range to use it, so he'll be inside the circle when he casts. But Xin then flashes onto a Thresh lantern, takes it, and is a million feet away when the damage from Darius would go off. I would speculate that the Darius ult does 0 damage in this instance because of how every other interaction works despite it not being a "ranged ability".
Now this could be wrong, but I don't think it is.
Primaquarius1 votesJust wait, there will be theory crafting vids on new ult on Youtube
LXII1 votesYeah I left a comment on Vandiril's video about this exact scenario, if anyone is gonna try out all options it'll be that guy.