Ekko literally needs his kit gutted

If only Ekko's CC was easy to dodge... wait... it is!

Nerfs are fine, guttings are bad.

No one should EVER want something gutted (since being gutted generally means you become unviable, we should want as many champions to be viable as possible, to think otherwise is promoting bad game design)

That said, I'm going to agree with Bjergson and say that he's not overpowered, just overtuned.

W and R have plenty of counterplay to them (so much so that, R should never hit you unless you do something you shouldn't be doing) , the biggest issues with him are the amount of damage his Q does if he manages to connect it both times, and the movement speed boost after his passive activates, both of those things allow him to excel at trading very easily.

It might also help to make it so Q can hit both times, but only add 1 passive stack, but if Q was to be hit i'd prefer one or the other, not both (either less damage per hit, or same damage but only 1 passive stack).

Edit: Slight elaboration, when I say everything should be made as viable as possible, that obviously doesn't apply to people who flat out hurt the game by being good (like Poppy or Vlad)

I love beating up Ekko's if their E is down and they used their ult. They'll die before their W even hits the ground.

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At least Fizz doesn't have a ranged poke. Ekko should have 0 CC period.

You need to get your elo gut... wait a sec its already as low as it can be. That's why you want ekko to be gutted.

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