So according to your own Metrics Pyke should of gotten nerfed by now Riot

Malix Farwin·9/19/2019, 9:05:33 AM·97 votes·19,339 views

12% pick rate, 65% ban rate. You are literally nerfing champions for less.

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Zardo9/19/2019, 12:35:34 PM47 votes

Unfortunately riot doesnt care about soloq until worlds are over. It's why they gave cait her unnecessary buff and are buffing riven this patch

Zeyphel9/19/2019, 2:05:40 PM27 votes

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12% pick rate, 65% ban rate. You are literally nerfing champions for less.

Nerfing Gutting

Pyke? Not even touched.

Nea1049/19/2019, 12:48:31 PM25 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6PzRiGI2,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-19T09:05:33.903+0000)

12% pick rate, 65% ban rate. You are literally nerfing champions for less.

As if they were trying to improve their own game :P Just get ready for Season 10, you'll see how things can go even worse.

Tin Obliterates9/19/2019, 1:33:26 PM18 votes

Too busy nerfing champs because of pro play and buffing others to force them in.

Metal Janna9/19/2019, 3:30:46 PM4 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#balance There's the Pyke nerf. (They're not actually going to nerf Pyke. Instead they're buffing Blitzcrank The Ban Shield to lower his ban rate)

Princess Bunhead9/19/2019, 10:16:51 PM4 votes

You are right ofcourse, but...

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Pumpedhero9/19/2019, 3:57:55 PM4 votes

he has a 50% winrate at most in high elo. Hes not worth nerfing at all.

GEZZEY9/19/2019, 6:37:40 PM3 votes

diana was good for 1 patch this whole season

MrEnds9/19/2019, 3:17:29 PM3 votes

hasnt pyke been getting nerfs tho? like the increase in time it takes to charge up a hook, dash minion damage removal, stab damage increase, stab aoe damage, and R's damage below execute range?

ImTheJuggernauty9/19/2019, 5:00:14 PM3 votes

Sigh....Guess it's time to pick up and play either riven, pyke, or fiora. I can drop darius, urgot, and brand now. All too immobile and not enough straight burst to really matter. They don't have get out of jail free cards like pyke either, so it's time to just move on so I can be viable.... So I guess that's it, riot has about 20 champs. We should all only ever play riv, jax, fiora, pyke, yas, and any of the top 5 assassins or adcs.

The Kombinator9/19/2019, 5:06:13 PM3 votes

Let's get him to 100% already.

G0blinSlay3r9/19/2019, 5:22:35 PM3 votes

Riot won't sell off their "Scorpion MK rip off" champ.

Eleshakai9/19/2019, 7:03:54 PM3 votes

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/05/dev-champion-balance-framework/

For below ~plat the threshold is 54.5% win rate if their ban rate is low, or 52.5% win rate if their ban rate is high For plat -> masters, the threshold is 54% win rate with a low ban rate, or 52% win rate with a high ban rate. For challenger, the threshold is 45% ban rate For pro play, it's 90% presence

If a champion meets any of those four criteria, they get nerfed. So unless that 65% ban rate is specifically at Challenger, they're not breaking their balance criteria... that being said, I believe since this patch is the world's patch, they may be paying less attention to solo queue balance temporarily to ensure a stable playing field for worlds...

Tahminatrix 9/19/2019, 9:33:10 PM3 votes

Everyone just agree to ban pyke, and maybe we can reach near 200% banrate with both teams banning him every game.

ODiiiiiN9/19/2019, 10:53:56 PM3 votes

I dont think you guys understand that all these nerfs and buffs are about Worlds... Riot doesnt care what happens below Masters.

Azure Hamster9/20/2019, 3:20:36 AM3 votes

"Should have"

"Should of" is a misspelling because of what it sounds like to say "should've".

Caitlyn

Packun Flower9/19/2019, 8:47:07 PM2 votes

We know who's getting the victorious skin next year.

Dracocrash9/19/2019, 7:29:25 PM2 votes

let me explain to you how this works,

Pyke is still selling a shit ton of skins, so there's no way they nerf him rn. Once his skin sales start to slow down, then maybe they will take a look at him. Its obvious as fuck, why else do you think riven is getting a revert? Why else do you think aatrox was allowed to be strong for so long? Once aatrox skins stopped selling, CYA @aatrox. Why else was vayne buffed despite being a 50% wr high skill cap adc? Skins.

Gabresol9/30/2019, 3:46:46 PM1 votes

according to people who main him, he should have gotten nerfec patches ago

Illabethe9/30/2019, 4:16:37 PM1 votes

Riot Metrics consider Win rate + Ban Rate, not Pick Rate. Pyke is pulling 51.2% Win rate. He's "borderline" meeting their metric, but not quite.

P.S. He's BEEN Nerfed. He no longer can do anything except Ult/Support. Maybe you shouldn't have gotten on the support only bandwagon and supported removing his aoes. Riot had to compensate that somehow......