And today's data indicates a positive winrate against all but 3 mid laners.
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Ahri/counters/
Vs Karthus 48.21 Vs Annie 49.15 Vs Asol 49.96
Its 50 and up from there for 35 other champs.
Daddy Ants13 votesReminder: 
has a 54.06% win rate with a 12% pick rate.
**Reminder: 
has a 53.21% win rate with a almost 10% pick rate. **
He's supposed to be a high skill floor/ceiling champion also XD
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has a 53.54% win rate with an almost 14% play rate.
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has a 54.25% win rate with a 13.64% play rate
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has a 52.46% win rate with a 33% play rate.
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has a 54.03% win rate with a 15.86% play rate.
I think these champions are long over due nerfs.
But better nerf Orianna's base MR by 4 instead!
D357R0Y3R3 votesdon't forget garen
but at least he's getting nerfed
Malak1 votesReminder:
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I think these champions are long over due nerfs.
But better nerf Orianna's base MR by 4 instead!
OP adcs again goddam
Daddy Ants1 votesOP adcs again goddam
4 out of 18 are outliers.
Madsin258 votes
Has the exact same winrate with a similar playrate.
Stupid balance team. Fix your broken champs.
Dope Solo4 votesHonestly, I think these devs are just hopelessly incompetent.
RainXBlade1 votesRiot's balance team is as useful as a government in a third-world country.
Rathar Dashing1 votesI think those are more organized.
Frosted Tips5 votesAlso a reminder that she is extremely unsatisfying to play and she probably needs small changes to alot of her kit to make her balance and satisfying to play.
TitanAnteus5 votesOh I can't win? Better R away 5 times.
Frosted Tips4 votesExactly she is safe and that is also apart of the reason she is not satisfying. She is suppose to be this assassin mage mix but she just feels so boring and safe. If you don't get ahead early just sit back farm and never die because you are uncatchable. I think she needs a nerf but it should also come with a power distribution taking defensive power and moving it to offensive power.
LTK KoRo1 votespower distribution taking defensive power and moving it to offensive power.
It's funny how it happened with removal of MS on Ahri q, and it made her even less satisfying. But i agree with your point, i just wanted to point it out
Fízz v25 votesreminder Nami now has 54.5% win rate and 16% pick rate
but some champs arent "oppressive" so they are fine hehe
NekoniClaws5 votesBetter nerf 
Rathar Dashing2 votesI hope that becomes the new meme XD
Bisaknosp2 voteslegit deserves every nerf on the pbe atm your point?
Infernape5 votesReminder: Ahri is unplayable unless her win rate is above 55% /s
Edit: Looks like someone cannot take a joke.
HaIlMonitor1 votesSomeone gets it! the only way Her mains can actually win on her is if first time players have a 55% chance of winning in their first ranked game on her! lol
lolipopevelynn5 votessry, everyone too busy bitching about like drooling idiotic sheep on a bandwagon that they cant see who the true terrors of mid lane a re right now.
and soon 
after her inevitable buff and once people learn how to play her.
is a sleeper too, and even while sleeping he is still insanely good.
Daddy Ants4 votesAhri main.
Yup I see why you think she's "balanced"
SwiftKitten883 votesnot going to lie.. ahri is VERY strong atm
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/ahri/all
every elo.. she is definitely in nerf range
i love her i cant play her.. and i love watching her... but... yeah thats a bit op.
still strangly enough she manages to not seem oppressive even with that high a winrate... which is pretty amazing, and is also reflected in her rather low banrate for a champion with that high a winrate.
is she too strong... sure i cant really deny that.. that winrate is too high, but winrate isnt the only thing
again donest FEEL oppressive,, which arguable means more than actual balance.
but yeah i would give her a few love taps as well
Frosted Tips2 votesBecause her kit is about safety. Being safe means a good winrate and not feeling oppressive look at Janna over the years. Never drops below 50% winrate and on average winrate is 52% or higher and her playrate hovers around 8-12% on average. They are both super safe and that helps their winrates stay high.
IMO Ahri should be less safe and more of an assassin idk for sure how to do that, but maybe change her Ult so if it doesn't do damage you lose a charge so she only gets 2 charges while running away.
Daddy Ants1 votesBecause her kit is about safety. Being safe means a good winrate and not feeling oppressive look at Janna over the years. Never drops below 50% winrate and on average winrate is 52% or higher and her playrate hovers around 8-12% on average. They are both super safe and that helps their winrates stay high.
IMO Ahri should be less safe and more of an assassin idk for sure how to do that, but maybe change her Ult so if it doesn't do damage you lose a charge so she only gets 2 charges while running away.
Ahri should be around 51-52% win rate.
Not heading towards 55%
Frosted Tips1 votesI didn't say it should, I explained why it is high and what I believe could be a nerf to help reduce that problem. She also is not satisfying to play. She is supposed to be this assassin mage but she just feels like this pick mage that just waits for a charm to land that she just throws out all the time and once one finally lands she goes in.
SwiftKitten881 votesBecause her kit is about safety. Being safe means a good winrate and not feeling oppressive look at Janna over the years. Never drops below 50% winrate and on average winrate is 52% or higher and her playrate hovers around 8-12% on average. They are both super safe and that helps their winrates stay high.
IMO Ahri should be less safe and more of an assassin idk for sure how to do that, but maybe change her Ult so if it doesn't do damage you lose a charge so she only gets 2 charges while running away.
can feel oppressive though becuase, her movement speed allows her to dodge anything
feels EXTREMELY oppressive because he completely negates any good move u do. forcing you to do what u DON'T want to do which is focus a tank.
a champions doesn't need to kill you.. they just need to aggravate you to no end.
a 
.. even if he is 0/12. is STILL STUPID AND ANNOYING.. its not AS opressive as if he was 12/0
but the oppression is still there
FORCES u to get 
. and this is turn FORCES you to delay your mana regen..
that what makes him feel opressive.. they force u into to doing thing u DON'T want to do.
ahri donest do that.. i mean sure if u get hit by a charm your FORCED to walk into her.. but... thats a skillshot she has to land that and her landing that donest feel oppressive.. it feels like. "well shit that was stupid, i let her hit me with charm"
every outplay she does FEELS like an outplay... thats the difference
eating an allies doesn't FEEL liek an outplay
pressing R or just having stupid absurd movement speed letting her dodges anything doesn't FEEL like an outplay
but ahri does.. every tie u die.. u KNOW why u die..
and yeah.. her winrate IS definitely too high and she needs nerfs.. but the fact is even with such a crazy winrate she still donest have the same "feel" of oppression
Frosted Tips1 votesI agree with everything you said. I just didnt want to get instantly downvoted by saying I think is is extremely oppressive and she needs at the very least a minor gameplay update but IMO it should be a full rework. The only way to counter Janna is by playing 5 ranged champions. She makes melee champions useless it is unacceptable how easy and safe she is. Her ult for sure needs a change.
Daddy Ants2 votes
that what makes him feel opressive.. they force u into to doing thing u DON'T want to do.
By that logic
are oppressive because they force 
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purchases.
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purchases.
What makes Zed oppressive isn't items that you have to purchase against him. It's the fact he's low risk and extremely high reward.
Zed can literally mongo his ult, as long as he presses Ignite and manages to proc his electrocute he's going to kill you.
Malak1 votesBy that logic
What makes Zed oppressive isn't items that you have to purchase against him. It's the fact he's low risk and extremely high reward.
Zed can literally mongo his ult, as long as he presses Ignite and manages to proc his electrocute he's going to kill you.
and escape to safety right after regardless of range(R has no return range limit unlike W) :D
WalkingInACircle2 votesOn Lolalytics.
OP.gg continues to keep her around 51.5.
Dope Solo2 votesAgain, look at the sum total of all the champions she has a positive win rate against. 6/43 - In Korea. My data is global plat +.
Death by Glamour3 votesop.gg is korea only no?
Daddy Ants3 votes[{quoted}](name=Death by Glamour,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mgPpL3Kj,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-08-11T17:00:34.225+0000)
op.gg is korea only no?
Correct.
Lolalytics is worldwide.
Rathar Dashing2 votesI'd wait to see the dust settle after all the rune nerfs, she's definitely going to take a hit from at least one of the changes.
Malak2 voteslol I play Karthus, one of the midlaners she "struggles" against and I still ban that sexy but cancerous bitch
Daddy Ants1 votes
's pretty sleeper too imo.
She has a similar win rate to Nami but a quarter of her play rate.
Bisaknosp1 votesshe'll get indirectly nerfed next patch
btw there are more champs with similar playrate and winrate but better focus on ahri xd
besides her wr is only high because most other mages are garbage and she can survive vs assassins i fear it will increase or stay the same despite her main tree getting nerfed since they are also nerfing zoe assassins partly rely on snowballing their lane, harder to do vs ahri so atm there are not many good picks vs her tho ori does fairly good vs her but she gets nerfed next patch so wait fuck her wr will go even higher i'd prefer them buffing other mages and tone assassins down a bit
Daddy Ants3 votesshe'll get indirectly nerfed next patch
btw there are more champs with similar playrate and winrate but better focus on ahri xd
Ahri's a problem, that's why people are focusing on her.
Dope Solo1 votesI'd go with all of the above and a direct nerf.
ThıghConnoısseur1 votesreminder ahri is only good when she has a 54-55% win rate lol
(not saying she still shouldn't be nerfed)
hrooza dota 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mgPpL3Kj,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-08-11T16:28:35.030+0000)
And today's data indicates a positive winrate against all but 3 mid laners.
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Ahri/counters/
Vs Karthus 48.21 Vs Annie 49.15 Vs Asol 49.96
Its 50 and up from there for 35 other champs.
annie is getting buffed so thats will lower ahri winrate [sg-ezreal]
