Devourer abuse running rampant

Aamano·Jul 27, 2015·5 votes·801 views

I'm seeing more and more people using champions like Twisted Fate, Kayle and Teemo in the jungle with Devourer

they max out their attack speed to 2.5, stack on their natural magic damage on auto attacks, and there's almost no counter-play because they can Stun, Blind, or turn invincible and then kill their target before the duration ends

I feel like this isn't fun or engaging gameplay, particularly for people on the end of the stun, and hope the item can be adjusted in the future

15 Comments

MasterVidallisJul 27, 20155 votes

Bad is bad. TF cannot kill you during the stun unless you're totally glassy. But if you are, AP tf can hundred to zero you too if he lands full combo. So can lots of mages with cc, like Syndra, and Annie. This isn't new.

Kayle is strong with devourer, but not building early AP lowers her scalling on all her abilities and makes autos her primary damage source. Just kite her, if you're tanky at all you can just wait out the ult then kill her, she is glassy as hell and medium range.

Teemo? Lol. Those teemo ganks are sure scary. All you have to do is like... walk away if he walks into your lane being he has zero cc and no gap closer.

Devourer is fine, it rewards junglers that farm hard, which means they can't gank as much early. You can counter them simply by playing a heavy early gank jungler and snowballing your lanes while their jungler farms. By the time they get sated it's too late.

BeersteinJul 27, 20152 votes

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Bad is bad. TF cannot kill you during the stun unless you're totally glassy. But if you are, AP tf can hundred to zero you too if he lands full combo. So can lots of mages with cc, like Syndra, and Annie. This isn't new.

Kayle is strong with devourer, but not building early AP lowers her scalling on all her abilities and makes autos her primary damage source. Just kite her, if you're tanky at all you can just wait out the ult then kill her, she is glassy as hell and medium range.

Teemo? Lol. Those teemo ganks are sure scary. All you have to do is like... walk away if he walks into your lane being he has zero cc and no gap closer.

Devourer is fine, it rewards junglers that farm hard, which means they can't gank as much early. You can counter them simply by playing a heavy early gank jungler and snowballing your lanes while their jungler farms. By the time they get sated it's too late.

I think the main reason junglers have been getting flak accross the board is that they can finally have an impact on their teams at the level other champions already did. People got too used to them just kinda being around but not having a significant impact in comparison to laners. The JG as a whole has been a mess for over a season, it's good to finally see it in a good place again and it means I can start playing JG again.

Aids cuz LeagueJul 27, 20151 votes

You forgot Lulu and Xin Zhao, and Master Yi and Aatrox, and anyone who has on hit effect abilities, hey guess what? That means adcs can now jungle, this includes Kalista, Vayne and Ashe. Yes when you use Ashes Q it actually procs sated devourer and she shoots arrows faster than jinx minigun by x 3 and its the funniest thing to have with runaans. I feel like im forgetting someone. But that is why the item is broken, they shouldn't be able to jungle, but now they can, someone with 6 items, now has 12 if they provide on hit effects. Oh i remember, the last person is someone you'd probably not expect, Braum can now jungle. Also sated fizz can get go **** himself.

VentiraJul 27, 20151 votes

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You forgot Lulu and Xin Zhao, and Master Yi and Aatrox, and anyone who has on hit effect abilities, hey guess what? That means adcs can now jungle, this includes Kalista, Vayne and Ashe. Yes when you use Ashes Q it actually procs sated devourer and she shoots arrows faster than jinx minigun by x 3 and its the funniest thing to have with runaans. I feel like im forgetting someone.

Hmm...Warwick, Elise....ugh, there's too many damn champs that have onhits.

BeersteinJul 27, 20154 votes

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Hmm...Warwick, Elise....ugh, there's too many damn champs that have onhits.

-1 cause you called out devourer Elise. Elise couldn't even clear the JG fast enough to be a viable champion until they added Runeglaive. Have you ever even played jungle?

VentiraJul 27, 20151 votes

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-1 cause you called out devourer Elise. Elise couldn't even clear the JG fast enough to be a viable champion until they added Runeglaive. Have you ever even played jungle?

Oh please, I could clear the jungle just fine after the changes to her spiderlings. Never needed Runeglaive. -1 cuz you think you need runeglaive to clear as elise. In fact, after the changes to her spiderlings, I can stay in the jungle for the duration of three full clears without ever having to back.

BeersteinJul 27, 20153 votes

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Oh please, I could clear the jungle just fine after the changes to her spiderlings. Never needed Runeglaive. -1 cuz you think you need runeglaive to clear as elise. In fact, after the changes to her spiderlings, I can stay in the jungle for the duration of three full clears without ever having to back.

There's a difference between being able to stay in the jungle and having competitive or even viable clear speeds. If you're keeping up with other junglers clear speeds without runeglaive as Elise then you're playing at a very low level of play.

VentiraJul 27, 20151 votes

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There's a difference between being able to stay in the jungle and having competitive or even viable clear speeds, get out of the bottom lane once in a blue moon and you might figure that out.

I'd also like to point out that her clear speeds aren't even that bad anymore. Plus the fact I can clear my first two camps and walk out of it at full health without having to chug a potion is great in of itself meaning I can gank sooner too.

And don't even get me started on how fast her clear scales now without Runeglaive. Also I've got high-silver/gold mmr.

BeersteinJul 27, 20151 votes

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I'd also like to point out that her clear speeds aren't even that bad anymore. Plus the fact I can clear my first two camps and walk out of it at full health without having to chug a potion is great in of itself meaning I can gank sooner too.

And don't even get me started on how fast her clear scales now without Runeglaive.

If you think she's OP with devourer then go play her with it and get out of silver, win win for you right.

VentiraJul 27, 20151 votes

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If you think she's OP with devourer then go play her with it and get out of silver, win win for you right.

I never said I thought she was op with Devourer. I just listed her name because I, for whatever reason, thought it might apply to her spiderlings. I'm not even really sure why I thought spiderlings had onhits effects anyways. It just kinda popped into my head, really.

Binxy PrimeJul 27, 20152 votes

thats pretty exaggerated but the item is definitely overtuned

Aids cuz LeagueJul 27, 20151 votes

Its not, you should go try it, the melt is real with Ashe, Pix hits two times now cause thats an on hit effect from lulu, get wits end, and nashors tooth, add a runaans if you like, rabadons and blade, done, no need for boots as you can use ur W as a speed boost. Kalista applies a second spear every other basic attack. Braum now only requires 2 hits plus a q to stun you, he can use his E to deflect the ranged minions in the jungle. You should try them out, its pretty stupid, the item is just too good on basically anybody with On Hits, it definetly needs some thought, as to how it got to live, I have no idea.

jjookkeerrJul 27, 20151 votes

pix isnt a hit effect so devourer dont work

Aids cuz LeagueJul 27, 20151 votes

it procs off lulus basic attacks, it works, try it

LadyRenlyJul 27, 20151 votes

"no counter play" LOOL

Every game I've been going devourer lately, people have been counter jungling like crazy, making me so far behind and putting pressure on a lane, forcing me to either keep trying to slowly level in the jungle, or come out and gank and expose getting double killed, and delaying the stacks even more