So when are armor tanks getting some love for once? Zed is not a bruiser right, he doesn't have conqueror, he just has lethality and armor pen. Assassins killing tanks lul.
DuskDaUmbreon9 votesYou mean the 9/1 Zed with 3 different pen items (TWO of which are %pen) against the Maokai with a sunfire and tabis? The Zed with over 70 CS up on Maokai? The one with twice as many items and two levels up on Maokai?
I'd expect a fucking Soraka to one-shot with that much of a lead.
######Yes I'm aware BC isn't truly pen, it's shred, but that's not really important as the point is it helps bypass armor
Tahminatrix 2 votesZed was half hp......and missed the majority of his q shurikans.
DuskDaUmbreon5 votesI wasn't aware your own HP affected your damage. When did Riot add that update?
Anchobi4 votesI wasn't aware your own HP affected your damage. When did Riot add that update?
it actually does if you have last stand rune xDDD
DuskDaUmbreon3 votes....Touche
Tahminatrix 2 votesMaokai couldn't even kill a half hp zed...
DuskDaUmbreon5 votesIt wasn't 50% until Maokai blew his combo. The 0/2/2 Maokai blowing his combo on the 9/1/3 Zed with a BC and Merc Treads, I should mention.
Tahminatrix 4 votesIts almost like black cleaver is op on assassins, considering zed was able to use it to snowball in the first place...
GodlyBane2 votes[{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYE1t2iq,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-05-31T00:11:00.680+0000)
Maokai couldn't even kill a half hp zed...
good. hes a tank. he shouldnt be able to do that while being 0/2 and the zed being 9/1
taleofsonata4 votesgood. hes a tank. he shouldnt be able to do that while being 0/2 and the zed being 9/1
If you look at the video, Hashinshin missed everything with Darius and he was 1/9 and still manage to kill a swain that hit everything and even zhonya and was 9/1.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesIf you look at the video, Hashinshin missed everything with Darius and he was 1/9 and still manage to kill a swain that hit everything and even zhonya and was 9/1.
You mean the Swain that did not had ult the whole time...?
GodlyBane1 votesIf you look at the video, Hashinshin missed everything with Darius and he was 1/9 and still manage to kill a swain that hit everything and even zhonya and was 9/1.
yes, hashinshin actually played that well with his Qs at the end if you see it. Swain actually walked into hashs first Q and then zhonyad for no reason. Swain actually misplayed that. Not to mention Hashinshin actually mentions a lot how bruiser mage items got nerfed and removed over and over so swian doesnt have a good bruiser build anymore, and swain needs buffs rn compared to the one that darius just recently got
Kalienor1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYE1t2iq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-30T23:35:28.932+0000)
Zed was half hp......and missed the majority of his q shurikans.
EVERY shuriken hit you meant. He waited for Aftershock to end, then ulted Maokai, hit a triple shuriken, spinned 3 times and hit a double shuriken. The only spell he missed was the very first E he casted while Maokai was on W. It took him almost 3 full spell rotations to kill a tank far behind him.
When you can survive more than 10 seconds to an overfed assassin focusing you, you're definitely a tank.
Ragnaveil3 votesI mean, even though that was the situation, its not far from the truth.
GodlyBane1 votesYou mean the 9/1 Zed with 3 different pen items (TWO of which are %pen) against the Maokai with a sunfire and tabis? The Zed with over 70 CS up on Maokai? The one with twice as many items and two levels up on Maokai?
I'd expect a fucking Soraka to one-shot with that much of a lead.
######Yes I'm aware BC isn't truly pen, it's shred, but that's not really important as the point is it helps bypass armor
love the bias boards amiright?
The thigh guy7 votesHe WoUlD hAvE SuRvIvEd If He BoUgHt A sEekErs ArMgUaRd!!!!
Shablagoo6 votesInsane look at that one shot that too zeds entire kit, also hitting zed using his ult after Mao's aftershock and also having two levels over him and having completed three pen items already. In all seriousness is this suppose to prove something other then armor makes you last longer, when behind? Should he allow tanks to 1v1 assassins how too and out dmg them? Are tanks suppose to be mindless drones that just run in and take all the dmg and not get punished for it? Of course tanks are suppose to take dmg he still survive with alot of haelth even after being hit with zeds ult after taking all his spells. He survived the burst but got outduelled and outplayed. Just because your a tank doesnt mean you shouldnt have to play smart.
Anchobi5 votesone shot zed dancing around like crazy hitting multiple skillshots over few seconds
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy no?
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesLmao I hadn't even gotten to that part. I just looked at the builds.
Edge of Daybreak5 votesI remember when a one shot was dying instantly. Now we have a Zed one shot where it's over a few seconds with multiple abilities being used and eventually you die. They wonder why he isn't being nerfed btw they can't see the flaw in their logic.
ZephyrDrake4 votesI remember when being "one shot" actually meant that
koshkyra3 votesRight? Nowadays you’re lucky if it takes more than two attacks to kill you.
ZephyrDrake2 votesRight? Nowadays you’re lucky if it takes more than two attacks to kill you.
Wow then I must be the luckiest person alive... or maybe I don't go against fed people and expect to survive their damage while I am behind.
wolvius1 votesI don't see any problems with this, zed has two anti-tank items and dealt the majority of his damage after mao aftershock expired. Also he's fed.
Ffs he had more anti-tank items than lethality, why shoulnt he kill a lone tank if he plays decent.
The only problem with assassins vs tanks is that 
pen is applied before lethality. Why should 3 lethality item assassins be so easily able to burst tank if they itemized for squishies.
taleofsonata1 votesI don't see any problems with this, zed has two anti-tank items and dealt the majority of his damage after mao aftershock expired. Also he's fed.
Ffs he had more anti-tank items than lethality, why shoulnt he kill a lone tank if he plays decent.
The only problem with assassins vs tanks is that
Because Assassins are meant to kill squishy champions, if an assassins is allowed to kill everything then there is no counterplay in term of resistance or who can deal with the fed assassin.
HeresyHorus1 votesCan ap assassins or burst Mages (pretty much the same as assassins) do the same against MR tanks or bruisers when ahead and when they have all MPen items ?
Sadly No they can't...
AD items seriously need to be looked at.
Lithality items are not needed, zed could have went DD or MoM and afk right clicked Mao to death while still retaining his assassin 1 shot burst against squishies.
This merit is exclusive to ad champs only.