What if Veigars kit interacted with his cage? some Veigar purposed changes.

Mega MilkJugs··8 votes·674 views

Hey all I used to play Veigar quite alot before the changes and right now it kind of feels that he relies to much on his enemies to make mistakes to get some plays off. you can possibly land your stun and probably burst someone down if you land your kit but if the enemy even knows what veigar does half the time theyl aimlessly walk around your cage as you try to land your q and your ever so slow w on them, either that or..just R.

What i was thinking now is what if veigars kit did some extra things that only affects people within the cage? For starter his W

What if whenever he cast his W within his cage the radius of his W was slightly increased and had a shorter delay? I think this would help him to reliably get his W off while still giving the enemy a slight chance to dodge.

With his Q perhaps whenever Veigar casts it inside the cage it would slowly bounce around the cage 2 or possibly 3 times? but only hit someone once. Like before it would increase the reliability of hitting people that got trapped within the cage but not stunned

E proably just be the same

And with his R perhaps it could have a passive where anyone within the cage is slightly debuffed? Debuffs i was thinking of could range from a 2% slow to perhaps a mechanic similar to Garens ult passive except it would target someone with the most assist.

Thematically it would be good, Veigar is an evil tiny lord so targeting someone with the most assists could be a possibility, he is effectively targeting the good guys opposite to Garen. Perhaps the R passive could be anyone within the cage has slight vision reduced? or Perhaps we could just leave R as is?.

One more change i had in mind was we could probably just scrap everything above and makes anyone inside his cage slowed by a certain percentage. It takes time for his Cage to come up so why shouldn't it take time for his opponents to move around in the cage?

Anyway thank you guys for reading and i hope a Rioter possibly @RiotReperToir can respond on what they think Any other critic or ideas is also welcomed. ~Thanks for listening to my 2 cents.

6 Comments

Crett4 votes

this idea has been thrown around a couple times and while it's a cool concept, it's execution could leave something to be desired. veigar is already so reliant on his E. i don't think his kit should center around it. his abilities were designed around a very simple stun pattern, and since his burst pattern is now tied to his now unreliable E, it polarizes his kit in a way that can feel great sometimes and just dysfunctional at other times

his e should be just a tool that he employs. not something he cowers behind

with this kind of change, assassins like zed and katarina can just pop out and 100-0 with their precious blinks. i don't like how helpless veigar feels in these situations. he should have weaknesses, but over reliance on such a potentially useless spell just makes me sad.

There should be a reason for him to want you in his cage, but i think it shouldn't be the hallmark of his rework. he really needs change in the rest of his kit

Mega MilkJugs1 votes

Yeah its true, to many times champs like that have just jumped on me, killed me and walked off AFTER e comes up.. Perhaps they really do need to do something with his E as well

Crett1 votes

some changes i've seen revolve around slowing or otherwise soft CCing enemies in the cage, which i think is a step in the wrong direction it just inflates his strengths against immobile champions while highlighting his weakness against hypermobile champs without making gameplay as or against him much more fun or satisfying.

what are your thoughts on this

Mega MilkJugs1 votes

You have a point there too, its true those kinds of changes would affect immobile champs more than the those super mobile ones.

Perhaps when Veigar casts his E/ cage maybe he could also get a MS speed boost or something? or he could reactivate his E while his cage is up to do a non-damaging CC knock back spell? in any case getting 100 to 0 without being able to do anything is not much fun and he really does need something to help him out there. Its a long shot but maybe even giving him a silence or something to stop dashes on one of his abilities/passive might be useful unless it becomes really oppressive...

Count Zubat2 votes

I really, really like the idea of bouncing Q

Kouga1 votes

Hmm....

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