Nerfing Vlad's W I see

Tavish·Jul 15, 2015·6 votes·956 views

Because there isn't any problems with other champions who can become untargetable

14 Comments

stealthfox94Jul 15, 20153 votes

Tryndamere Surprise! I split push like crazy, deal tons of damage and it takes 10 minutes to kill me.

YumaS2AstralJul 15, 20152 votes

To be honest, untargetability itself is a stupid mechanic

It allows those champions to have too much safety and outplay potential for someone that builds full damage usually.

Vlad could lose it but he would probably have to be compensated.

TavishJul 15, 20154 votes

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To be honest, untargetability itself is a stupid mechanic

It allows those champions to have too much safety and outplay potential for someone that builds full damage usually.

Vlad could lose it but he would probably have to be compensated.

I agree it gives a ton of outplay potential... However, of all the untargetable abilitiles, Vlad's was the most balanced. It has a big health cost, meaning if you use it at the wrong time you can actually do MORE damage to yourself, and the cd was already long.

1000angrybeesJul 15, 20153 votes

Also besides Vlad having an extremely detrimental cost, he doesnt do large burst damage while/after being untargetable.

Harrys Nut ShackJul 15, 20152 votes

The problem with Vlad is he's only balanced for like 5 minutes during mid game. Early game he has 48 AD and a 10 second cooldown Q, with a W and E that kills himself, all while he's a short ranged mage. He's basically a sitting duck until level 9, balanced for 5 minutes, and then unstoppable. I don't think it has anything to do with his untargetability. At least it costs him a good chunk of his health and has a long cooldown, making it very unlikely you can use it twice in a teamfight or duel.

TiberiusAudleyJul 15, 20152 votes

Kalista TahmKench Forgetting anyone?

TavishJul 15, 20151 votes

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Forgetting anyone?

This is a good point. I especially hate Kalista

A Miss FortuneJul 15, 20151 votes

I don't see a lot of reason for them to adjust him, personally I think he should just be disabled until he's reworked. The champion is just, not right for the game. He's not "overpowered" since none of his abilities itself are THAT strong like, to the point where he one-shots entire teams on a 0 second cooldown, and he isn't overloaded like Ekko or Thresh. Vladimir is broken and I think Riot said the champion shouldn't of existed in the first place.

thinking manJul 15, 20151 votes

now Vlad is broken cancer for many reasons but his untargetability is actually a bit worse than the other two because it not only comes at a higher cost, using damage on it also isn't as easy because you have to sit in a bad position for a long time rather than being like Fizz for example who can go into a bad situation and then hop back in the opposite direction.

I think Riot needs to rework untargetability so that it is used differently, although Yi's is probably the most difficult to use for dodging.

RueianJul 15, 20151 votes

Shaco's is actually the hardest to use for dodging

thinking manJul 15, 20151 votes

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Shaco's is actually the hardest to use for dodging

shaco's doesn't require a target to dodge and I'm pretty sure both Shaco's and Yi's have a similar frame

RueianJul 15, 20151 votes

Shacos is like a fraction of a second and sometimes doesn't targeting, you have to use it to dodge the impact timing rather than the missile travel time. Yi's is a tad bit longer.