If you get the Elder Dragon, the enemy nexus blows up. That's the true intention right? Rather turning the game into a one sided shitshow that the team without the Elder buff is forced to suffer through.
Rather the game just ends there than having to sit around getting blown up in 1 hit, thanks to how much bloody damage is in the game.
Gemiuss10 votesThe new Elder is the most r%%%%%ed thing Riot has created. It literally is so broken that the enemy just wins by default if they're not trolling. It takes away the abilty to ''outplay'' the opponent when you're low hp , you just get executed.
5050BS5 votesGame could be 0/100 and if the 0 team gets Elder they win.
Its stupid and what is more stupid is Junglers dont seem to understand that you want Dragons to get the soul so you can get the Elder with ease. But if the game is even you DONT want to get dragons so the elder does not come out. You get baron and push to win.
MasterDClone8 votesif in that scenario the team with 100 kills gives up elder they kinda deserve to lose lol
HiemDall2 votesIf you lose with a lead like that you should really just uninstall tbh
Dasdi961 votesGame could be 0/100 and if the 0 team gets Elder they win.
Its stupid and what is more stupid is Junglers dont seem to understand that you want Dragons to get the soul so you can get the Elder with ease. But if the game is even you DONT want to get dragons so the elder does not come out. You get baron and push to win.
The team with 100 kills have made a huge mistake by allowing elder to exist.
Linna Excel6 votesIf the enemy team let you have it, they've probably already lost because they can't contest. If you took it, chances are you've won a late game teamfight and they've lost because the survivors aren't going to be able to deal with your buffed team.
There's only one scenario I see the other team winning: they've got a split pusher tearing up your base while you were busy taking it.
Z3SIeeper11 votesIdk why this is so hard to grasp.
They let the enemy have 5 dragons and they think they shouldn't lose?
Abibyama II9 votesI hear people say that Elder kills the "comeback" potential.
They probably had plenty of comeback chances by then.
Z3SIeeper7 votes5 kills to 40, enemy has 4 dragons
WINNABLE
Enemy takes Elder
Man fuck this game all our comeback potential is gone
^ Literally everyone complaining about elder.
Saezio4 votesthere are games that the 2 teams are equal in gold and the team that takes elder just wins tho.
Z3SIeeper3 votesWhat have they been doing the last 40 minutes?
How the hell are they equal in gold? Especially since one of them has Dragon Soul, which is already basically a game-ender (other than Cloud).
You're actually telling me that 2 teams have went 40 minutes being equal in gold despite one of them having Dragon Soul? Calling bullshit on that, bring out the evidence.
Saezio1 votesless than 2% gold disparity
Same number of towers
Team that lost elder was probably ahead in gold before the buff was taken.
So, again. Just make it an autowin as soon as the dragon is taken.
Just don't pretend the team that gets elder is always ahead
Z3SIeeper1 votesLmfao that was a bug.
Saezio1 votesthat's beside the point. The point is you said one team getting elder means they are ahead and the enemy team already has had their chances to come back. Which is not the case. Bug is irrelevant to this discussion. Does the bug make elder easier to take?
Z3SIeeper1 votesA bug which made Elder kill someone at ~60%+ health rather than 20% is pretty relevant imo.
Saezio1 votesYou're actually telling me that 2 teams have went 40 minutes being equal in gold despite one of them having Dragon Soul? Calling bullshit on that, bring out the evidence.
That's what you said. I am providing you evidence you are wrong. Are you able to accept that?
The bug has nothing to do with one teams ABILITY to get elder in an even game.
AlienPrimate8 votesMy last game played: enemy team is winning every fight and has 4 dragons to 1. They are up by 9k gold. My team takes elder and that 9k gold deficit becomes a 9k gold lead within 10 minutes and we win while still being 15 kills in the hole.
https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3214536773/209287161?tab=overview
cGzWaJoyce2 votesMy last game played: enemy team is winning every fight and has 4 dragons to 1. They are up by 9k gold. My team takes elder and that 9k gold deficit becomes a 9k gold lead within 10 minutes and we win while still being 15 kills in the hole.
https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3214536773/209287161?tab=overview
i'm even more impressed you went taric top and won!
AlienPrimate4 votesWhy is that impressive? Taric is the best duelist in the game when he has an enemy that can't kite him. To beat morde I literally just stand there auto attacking him to death with my passive while healing everything he does. The only reason I was dying that game is becasue Vel Koz was doing over 2k true damage to me every fight.
Voluug131 votesCould you throw me some specifics like runes and items? I have been trying to pick up Taric top (and jg) again but I havent found any good or satisfactory set-up.
AlienPrimate2 votesRunes you have a lot of choices depending on matchups. I almost always take attack speed, adaptive force, and needed lane resist for my stats.
Ranged harass - Fleet footwork, presence of mind, tenacity/alacrity, last stand, second wind, revitalize
Most melee matchups - Grasp, demolish, conditioning, revitalize, presence of mind, alacrity/tenacity
You can also go aftershock if you aren't confident in a matchup like Riven or Yasuo
Melee with no ability to escape (Morde, Illaoi, Aatrox) - Conqueror, presence of mind, alacrity/tenacity, last stand, conditioning, revitalize
Starting items - 
for enemies who will likely try to fight you early game and 
for enemies that won't try to fight you early or that you don't think you can kill at level 2-3
Rush 
always. This gives a stupid amount of sustain to Taric.
Against AD: > 
> 
> 
Against AP: > 
> 
> 
Against no threat tanks: > > 
> 
(If you are in a game where both teams have a lack of damage with something like 3+ tanks, this build is insane. Your team will never take damage.
Other items to get:
- you feel tanky enough and can now get some damage. Taric can self proc the passive with his W getting 60% attack speed
- you need grievous wounds
- enemy ADC is only physical threat or they have 2 or more people building crit
- you are your team's engage. This is generally not ideal because Taric is way better at supporting the engage than at being the engage
- you have a really fed carry that you can just support and push for the win
- the enemy is mostly magic damage. Never get this with ardent censer because you overcap on attack speed wasting gold on stats
- enemy has no magic damage
- enemy has no magic damage or an enemy Vayne is a problem
For boots, you can get 
depending on the enemy team. Swifties are generally only to counter a specific enemy like Singed or Ashe so they are rare.
Skill order is Q,E,Q,W,E,R,E,E,Q,Q,R,E,W,W,W,R,W,Q
Against Fiora it is Q,W,Q,E, W max, 4 points Q, E max - in this matchup, never use your stun unless she used riposte for some reason.
Here are a couple of recent clips I have uploaded using this build.
MorganFreemanBot1 votesRunes you have a lot of choices depending on matchups. I almost always take attack speed, adaptive force, and needed lane resist for my stats.
Ranged harass - Fleet footwork, presence of mind, tenacity/alacrity, last stand, second wind, revitalize
Most melee matchups - Grasp, demolish, conditioning, revitalize, presence of mind, alacrity/tenacity
You can also go aftershock if you aren't confident in a matchup like Riven or Yasuo
Melee with no ability to escape (Morde, Illaoi, Aatrox) - Conqueror, presence of mind, alacrity/tenacity, last stand, conditioning, revitalize
Starting items -
Rush
Against AD:
Against AP:
Against no threat tanks:
Other items to get:
For boots, you can get
Skill order is Q,E,Q,W,E,R,E,E,Q,Q,R,E,W,W,W,R,W,Q
Against Fiora it is Q,W,Q,E, W max, 4 points Q, E max - in this matchup, never use your stun unless she used riposte for some reason.
Here are a couple of recent clips I have uploaded using this build.
Jesus, that's impressive.
Saezio6 votesThen why not make it a game winner in the first place?
Linna Excel1 votesMy only real guess is riot didn't want to discount the split pusher long shot. That seems to me like the main option for winning if you lost it.
The only other thing I can think of is the team that didn't get it has a cho'gath so big that the team with the elder still takes forever to kill him.
Charlie Loves U6 votesI literally have seen Elder Dragon 1 time in my last 20 + games. maybe more than that. maybe closer to 30? not even sure. but it almost never shows up.
yeah it is an auto win and its fucking op as hell. but its condition to spawn is pretty insane. a team has to have 4 drakes already and THEN it spawns. if you can't win with a soul and control of the map to get 4 drakes early on then you deserve to lose.
its honestly more of a last chance button for a losing team. You are losing the game? they can't close out just yet? well now you get one last shot to fight over elder. get that and you might be able to wipe them or get some control of the game.
I think its hideously broken but they know that and they accordingly made it pretty hard to spawn.
PalPlays1 votesI have only seen it once, and we lost the game once we got it. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Whyskered Wyrm1 votesI have only seen it once, and we lost the game once we got it. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
https://giphy.com/gifs/creepy-shrek-xUPGcCh4nUHyCkyuti shhhhh its ok. Its ok.
PalPlays1 votesI am an outlier to the average, I deem.
Elon Musky5 votesriot games aka tencent just wanna cater to their chinese audience (which is notably a large one) where internet cafes (aka short games) are popular. money-hungry corporation.....(a redundant thing to say, because aren't all corporations money-hungry?). shit sucks.
Anidan2 votesI mean, you say that but DotA2 is hugely popular in China as well and they aren't emphasizing particularly short games in a meta where regen is key to laning phase; buybacks are a precious commodity on a long timer that you'll try to work teamfights around; farming is key to a carry's power due to item power spike timings they need to hit and that takes time; and timing high-ground pushes around Roshan is often very important to not losing instantly on getting aggro near the enemy's base, which also means that upon losing Aegis you generally have to wait to try and push high-ground with the next Roshan short of a major teamfight victory where buybacks are used and spent up. Plus, in a game where Techies exists, you can't count on exclusively short games anyway.
This is purely Riot shooting for the fast action angle like HotS decided to go for, except unlike HotS it didn't start that way so it had to develop in that direction over time in front of everyone who saw the change. I don't buy the "It's all for China!" angle, or DotA2 wouldn't be popular there. This just looks like blaming a common bad guy nobody will try to defend, honestly.
boricCentaur14 votesA auto win are you trolling? Do you actually understand how much 20% is late game since it's not a auto win, BARON IS STILL BETTER if you want to close games out.
Like damage sounds good but there you realize that's all it is basically.
Like maybe try think before making a post. Since it's not a auto win unless the enemy is afk.
Zonetoxic0024 votesYou must be a tank player because with all the damage in the game right now everyone but a tank player gets 2-3 shot late game with elder that turns it into 2 shot and any assassin 1 shot
boricCentaur13 votesLOL tanks get hit the hardest wtf. Yeah so you people don't actually understand how numbers work got it.
So most non tank champions die at around 400 to 500 hp that isn't lot, think about how many times you survived a late game fight with less then 500 hp as a mage since you don't. Most adcs auto for a higher amount that late.
It's is bad but it's not op or a auto win at all. You can win a team fight vs a team with the buff.
Also if you are getting one shot my a assassin more then 30 mins in you're afk.
Like you really don't seem to have a actually understanding of the game.
Not to mention you can zhonya's it, or kindred ult stops it. So there is ways around it too. Lot of ad champions get GA making it less useful.
It's a great buff to give a team a comeback or give a edge on a team fight. But for the most part baron is WAY better at ending since when you are that late and what to end it's most likely because of a hard time pushing not winning team fights.
Zonetoxic0021 votesyour GA means shit when you explode once at 20% and the again after you respawn with 20% health with 1 auto. Not to mention its a GREAT comeback mechanic cause now you dont actually have to fight your way back into the game you can just steal it and two shot the entire enemy team to win..... and your telling me I know nothing about the game get a life. The ONLY thing this is intended for is professional play thats all. and if you believe any other way your blind. Solo Q is just that solo Q teams dont work together in solo Q so dragons should NEVER have as much impact in a game as they do.
Probs feeding4 votesIn plat 1, I've played about 20 games so far and have yet to see a single team get elder.
So I'm not that worried about how strong it is lmao
feral one1 votesI only saw it once and although it helped me get a triple kill as a full tank Leona support when my jungler and adc got killed, we had already opened their whole base and and mid/top were driven super minions home.
LightswornLance2 votesActually I wouldnt mind this so my stupid soloque teammates would realize elder is actually worth doing.
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Afaik, there's many reasons why someone may have a low WR.
My smurf has 70%+ and its almost plat 3 but i play only my OTPs
This one has below 50% because i play to have fun.
Hi im 123 votesoh for sure, we all have our 4fun aka int accounts, I'm posting from one right now since I like the name but the point is that the guy throwing shade at someones account should probably be doing it from a decent one.
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oh for sure, we all have our 4fun aka int accounts, I'm posting from one right now since I like the name but the point is that the guy throwing shade at someones account should probably be doing it from a decent one.
smurfs dont help you learn the game. no matter the elo, theres no reason to smurf unless you are someone who wants to make a 30-0 montage and act like something is op or that you are good
Starcraft243ver1 votessmurfs dont help you learn the game. no matter the elo, theres no reason to smurf unless you are someone who wants to make a 30-0 montage and act like something is op or that you are good
If you otp a champion you need smurfs to play other champions the alternative being ruining games on your main until your mmr adjust to your new champion pool.
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Have you ever considered there might be a lot of reasons why someone might be "hardstuck"?
And it doesnt really matter. The vast majority of players are in silver
Hi im 125 votesisn't over half the playerbase gold+ at this point tho
Greenfox41 voteshttps://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution Actually 30% of players are in silver so a big grouping of them is still below gold
Hi im 122 votesa big grouping yes but the majority is gold and above at this point.
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a big grouping yes but the majority is gold and above at this point.
The majority of players are in Silver, Bronze, Iron, and Unranked. Around I believe 35% of players are Gold or above, the remainder being below that. Which makes enough sense, the majority of players aren't playing ranked, they're playing casually.
Hi im 121 votesthere are less players in iron than there are in diamond, likewise for the other statements you're wrong.
Literal IRL Tree1 votes50% of players are g4 or below
