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Soraka is not viable at all, yet you're trying to prove yourself that she is

58304318_DEL··5 votes·1,932 views

Even though her difficulty is marked as 3, she has spells that are really hard to effectively proc. and time well, and we (fans of Soraka) go game after game trying to prove ourselves that she is still viable, even though she's not. At all.

Let's look at her abilities and do a little breakdown of what they can actually do:

  • Her Q is the strongest source of her damage, where she can damage multiple enemies once per 5 seconds, dealing 230 (+35% AP) damage. Altough, when you think about it, this spell is most likely good only for lane poking. Once the midgame starts, this spell is absolute garbage for teamfights. It requires extremely precise aiming and even if you manage to hit enemy with every Q you use (which only few people will manage to do), the damage you will deal is negligible.

  • Now her W is a really strong heal, where Soraka as a walking blood-bank is donating 10% of her HP every 2 seconds to heal for 240 (+60% AP). In most cases she either needs to heal her ally 1 or 2 times to turn the battle around or she can spam the heal over 6 times and yet the ally will still die, and then she will die too. Also, this spell makes her the prime target in team battles and since she has no escape, she will most likely die first.

  • E is her second and last possible source of her spell damage, where she can damage, silence and possibly root enemies once per 16 seconds, dealing 230 (+40% AP) damage. I'm going to be quick here: the damage is absolute garbage, cooldown allows you to cast the spell once per a teamfight, silence is only good to cancel enemy channel spells, and root will never happen, unless your enemy is AFK. You can't also touch minions with that spell, because why the hell should you?

  • Now praise her R, which is the only good thing about her, where she can first remove grievous wounds and then globally heal her entire team, once per 130 seconds. She heals for 350HP (+55% AP) or for 150% if they're under 40% HP. This spell really feels like it's doing something in the game, where if you time it right, it can turn around whole battles! Feels good, works well, easy to learn but difficult to master.

After reading this and being completely honest to yourself, you can't claim that she's a good design, that's fun to play and is viable for battles of Summone's Rift. There's no way, unless until they do something about her...

Edit: Hey, you guys are bunch of hypocrites that talk about how great and effective Soraka is now after the rework, yet you didn't even notice her in the champion select. And when the even newer rework arrives, you will be doing the same - praising the new Soraka and criticizing the past one without even trying out the mechanics in the actual gameplay. I am done arguing with you, because you know half the s#*% about this game and the proper champion mechanics that actually work and are enjoyable.

23 Comments

Jamaree3 votes

Sees tourney play and high elo play not viable though somehow?

The problem with Soraka is that she is either incredibly good and unfun to play against as a support, or bad at supporting but good elsewhere. Morello had it right, afk healing really isn't an enjoyable mechanic. I personally like her right now, because she feels more like a battle medic though.

58304318_DEL1 votes

Yeah, I checked your match history and I can see how much you like her now. Out of over 200 games you played her 3 times. And no, there are no situations where she's incredibly good. Not for at least 90% of the time.

Also, Morello was the one who made her heal into "AFK healing", where he was lowering her heal cooldown over and over from 10 seconds to 20 seconds. But before, she could at least focus on other things too, rahter then just spamming her heal every 2 seconds like now. And no, I assure you that she's NOT more fun to play now than she was before. I've played her more than just 3 times to know...

Jamaree6 votes

Yeah, I checked your match history and I can see how much you like her now. Out of over 200 games you played her 3 times. And no, there are no situations where she's incredibly good. Not for at least 90% of the time.

Also, Morello was the one who made her heal into "AFK healing", where he was lowering her heal cooldown over and over from 10 seconds to 20 seconds. But before, she could at least focus on other things too, rahter then just spamming her heal every 2 seconds like now. And no, I assure you that she's NOT more fun to play now than she was before. I've played her more than just 3 times to know...

"Your opinion doesn't matter because you haven't played her as much as I have."

"Your opinion of fun is wrong."

You do realize how stupid that sounds right?

Yes, I have few Soraka games, two reasons for that, one because I'm the elo I'm at, there are more support mains, I main mid, top, and support and a lot of times, people will take support before I do. Two, she doesn't go into every team comp and if I'm playing against a team of heavy all in, I pick Janna over Soraka.

58304318_DEL1 votes

Correction, you're opinion doesn't matter because you pretty much didn't play her at all! Yes, it may be "fun" for you to "try her out" for one or two games, but you surely wouldn't play her more than 20 games.

Also, you just said it by yourself: there are other better supports to pick over her in every game, that excels in everything she can do twice as much.

Jamaree3 votes

Correction, you're opinion doesn't matter because you pretty much didn't play her at all! Yes, it may be "fun" for you to "try her out" for one or two games, but you surely wouldn't play her more than 20 games.

Also, you just said it by yourself: there are other better supports to pick over her in every game, that excels in everything she can do twice as much.

Wrong, what I said is that there are better champions for certain situations. I'm not going to pick Janna into a poke comp, I'm not going to pick Thresh into a tanky team comp, and I wouldn't pick Soraka into a team comp with heavy engage and grievous wound teams. But fine, ignore my opinion then, how you going to ignore the fact that her win rate, play rate, and tourney rate have all gone up since her rework?

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

root will never happen

You know you don't simply cast it right on top of them if you want to root, right? Q can slow, making it harder for them to get out of the radius of Equinox, and you also place it in their intended path to force them to go around or stop; even if you don't root them, making them stop in their tracks can be far more effective. She's not bad, you just don't like her, and those are not the same things.

58304318_DEL1 votes

Yes I know you don't cast it on top of them, I'm not an idiot. And I know her Q can slow, but please, be so kind and show me that combo for at least once. I will play Vayne and you will play Soraka, and then try to slow me down with her Q and then root me after with E. I want to see that magic.

Btw, since her Q slow is a miracle to pull, I tried using the "Frost Queen's Claim" to slow the enemy before to root them with E after. Still was really hard to pull, plus it is possible to do only once per 60 seconds.

And yes, I stopped few people by placing it in front of their intended paths, but it clearly shows that they are already running and not fighting in a team battle. Also, in most cases it's not the Soraka who should be in the lead, chasing them, but others, since she is so vulnerable as I mentioned before. Wow, more I think about it, more I see how bad design she was.

Jamaree3 votes

Yes I know you don't cast it on top of them, I'm not an idiot. And I know her Q can slow, but please, be so kind and show me that combo for at least once. I will play Vayne and you will play Soraka, and then try to slow me down with her Q and then root me after with E. I want to see that magic.

Btw, since her Q slow is a miracle to pull, I tried using the "Frost Queen's Claim" to slow the enemy before to root them with E after. Still was really hard to pull, plus it is possible to do only once per 60 seconds.

And yes, I stopped few people by placing it in front of their intended paths, but it clearly shows that they are already running and not fighting in a team battle. Also, in most cases it's not the Soraka who should be in the lead, chasing them, but others, since she is so vulnerable as I mentioned before. Wow, more I think about it, more I see how bad design she was.

Her E is a zoning tool, the fact that is an AoE silence is actually really good. You can't underestimate the power of a silence and end game, where is literally takes a second to blow people up, the fact that it silences stop them from escaping or even stops them from killing, and honestly, the Q is more used for regain in lane over actual damage and the slow.

58304318_DEL1 votes

Screw you Jamaree and get off this thread already.. You're here only to argue, not to look at facts and see the truth. Everybody can read the numbers from the paper but it's a different thing to apply it in the game.

Jamaree5 votes

Screw you Jamaree and get off this thread already.. You're here only to argue, not to look at facts and see the truth. Everybody can read the numbers from the paper but it's a different thing to apply it in the game.

Course I'm here to argue, you are blind to balance and aren't thinking out every angle of things. You are saying her Q and E are bad for damage without realizing Soraka isn't a champion to do damage, we don't need solo lane Soraka being a thing again.

You are saying her W makes her a target, how is that a bad thing especially end game in a team fight, if the opponent team is focusing the SUPPORT, what are the other four people with the damage doing?

You are saying her E is useless without realizing how strong a zone tool it is. It is a silence, a long lasting AoE silence, of course it is going to have some downsides, do you understand how powerful an AoE silence is, the root is just bonus and it would honestly still be good even without it.

You can't turn a blind eye to the pros she has or write them off just because you don't think they are good.

Ale non è male1 votes

E is strong, but the CD is WAAAAAYYY TOO LONG. If I'm going to correctly use it at the start or in during preparation of a fight to silence the enemy assassin cause I'm seeing tht my ADC is slightly out of position and I'm saving it with that, I will not have the silence available for the rest of the fight(even on maxed out CDR, at rank 5 the E CD is 9.6 seconds, and even prolonged fight usually don't last that long) so I'll just have to try to stay alive and heal allies as much as I can without to be able to grant meaningfull CC(gl hitting enemies Starcall exactly on the head of your enemies while you are trying to stay alive and move to heal allies), and if the enemy is smart they are going to come from me as first priority target and then proceed to roflstomp the fight in their favour(because you as Raka are still going to be kinda of squishy and you deal little dmg, so it requires little time and no risk to take you out, and let's talk honestly, no want the enemy team to have a Soraka alive to heal her allies all fight long) In late game her E tend to be useless, that's kinda a fact

Tis a nice day3 votes

copy pastes comment but replaces Jamaree with Tinticy

FiendOfOne3 votes

I actually completely agree with Jamaree. Because, quite frankly, effectively used Soarak means the other bot lane has a terrible lane, and I have personally used her E to ensure kills for the team. No, they didn't walk into it. They aren't dumb. But they tried to walk around it.

Soraka is great for zone control, and she's about predicting her target's movement (see also: Thresh, or any other skillshot champ). If you can learn to read your opponents, or hell, just be in a teamfight in the jungle, her aoe and sustain is outstanding.

Basically, I have to say, it seems like you just don't like her, OP. The stats don't lie; her winrate and playrate have both went up substantially. She's doing much better than 'spam Q for days and push lane'. She's my first support, and I love her dearly. And I think her rework is outstanding.

58304318_DEL1 votes

You're another liar with big words but no way to prove her in the action. I just can't stand to watch this. You have only two games in the match history in one of which you fed terribly, or in the other one you played against the team with 2 afkers and won the game. That's your experience with her in the past month and yet she's your dearly support.

Hell, I wish I could just remove her from my champion list and never play her again. From champion I used to love they made a champion that's annoying to play for, with or against. No fun involved.

FiendOfOne1 votes

Those weren't AFKs, they just got wrecked. Also, check the game before those? 3/3/13.

You're right, in the past month I haven't been using her. If you notice my match history, you see I main jungle and top lane. And I just picked up Leona to have another support, and have been learning her (hence the games with her in them).

You can call me a liar all you want. You can choose not to believe things. That's up to you.

EDIT: Also, I think the community speaks for itself. Look at the upvotes and downvotes. Oh, and she's still doing better on winrate than over half of the other champions in the game.

Duke Anax3 votes

I hate to be rude, but in this cae it probably fits: Learn to play.

It's a skillshot, it needs practise, but it is not that hard to hit. During laning I can actually bully a lot of other bots out of farm. During teamfights it's no longer about damage, it's about self healing.

ALso don't kill yourself, only heal when it is save and/or you think it's gonna make a difference. Otherwise get out and don't risk anything. It should be hard fot the enemy to kill you. And don't facechek ever, Starcall is a vision spell!

CaRTeLKiLLa2 votes

Ive stopped playing her entirely. She was one of my favorite supports back in S3 due to how unique her abilities were. I loved picking her into team comps with lots of magic damage and letting the MR shred on her Q go to work. I loved picking her against AD assassins or with divers such as Rammus or Malphite due to the huge armor bonus on her W. I loved laning with Varus, Sivir, Caitlyn and Graves and pushing all day with all the free Qs her E would provide then hittting R and getting an assist for helping Jax turn the tide against Renekton. New Raka is trash, why would I play her when I could play Nami who has a similar skillshot yet is far superior in terms of peeling?

58304318_DEL1 votes

Hey, at least one person get's what I'm saying.. Thank you.

Yes, but really, a simple solution on Riot concerns of old Soraka and her "pushin problems" would be to reduce her old Q damage to minions by 50%. There, problem solved. She was awesome as she used to be, not the trash she is now.

Kuroi862 votes

After reading this and being completely honest to yourself, you can't claim that she's a good design, that's fun to play and is viable for battles of Summone's Rift.

Actually, I think she's wonderfully designed.

For Poking and Sieging.

Not, I repeat, NOT for jumping into a team fight and trying to burst people down.

58304318_DEL1 votes

Yeah, go win a game with poking. You can shove your poking to your facebook and not here.

There are other champions that can do much more than just poke.

DrCyanide1 votes

Other champions don't get the same "run away from the poke" reaction. If Soraka pokes you, it means she's going to heal her carry once or twice more. Against a Nami you pull back a little and the heal doesn't bounce to the ally. This (as others have stated) is a zoning tool, and a very effective one.

My wife was very uninterested in Soraka before these changes, and another friend of mine was very upset that they were going to happen (he liked being a mana-battery). Both of them like the changes. My wife's crazy good at keeping our entire team healed up in big team fights and staying alive herself. She's also gotten very good at predicting when an enemy Blitzcrank is going to grab, and throwing her silence down just as he wants to, preventing her carry from getting pulled.

It seems the people who don't like the changes are people who prefer playing her as a damage dealer. To them, I'd say yes, there are other champions you should pick now. For those people who prefer the support side of supporting though, Soraka is very much a viable pick. Her healing ability trumps Sona's and Nami's hands down.

Kuroi861 votes

Oh Soraka can do more than just poke. She can heal, she can support, she can silence, she can do quite a bit. As for damage dealing champs, well lets save that for the carries, when I play a support, I'm looking to support, not carry. Fun trick, watch the enemy Zed ult your Akali, drop silence under both of them while she is Zhonya's, by the time it ends, Zed is stuck and not going anywhere while Akali mops the floor with him.

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