~130 cs nasus = 500 stacks now

NodirjonSattarov·Feb 6, 2019·58 votes·15,647 views

thank you for this garbage

53 Comments

MoonscourgeFeb 6, 20198 votes

This would have happened before the buffs as well. He stomped you and your team /shrug

It's still just as easy to deny somebody last hits. The fact many people consider Nasus strong just shows how bad most people are at this.

NodirjonSattarovFeb 6, 20197 votes

Nasus with 150cs =/= 600 stacks pre buffs.

ThefrostyvikingFeb 6, 201910 votes

If i am not mistaken a wave spawns every 30 seconds after 1,05 min.

Cannons start at 2,05 and then come along every 3rd wave until 15 min where they come every other wave.

So if we assume that he had nearly perfect farm&stacking with 150 CS then for ease of counting i´ll say about 24 waves which is 8 cannons and 142 minions with some lost which translates into 474 stacks.'

If we double the cannon minions to current value then he´d have 522 stacks.

This shows that a fair lot of those stacks he took was jungle camps and he also got extra stacks of champions.

Right so he took a bunch of kills and some camps, even if we look pre buffs he´d still have like 520 stacks, which is lower than 600 but still a lot.

And having checked your history.......14 kills and 155 CS in 31 minutes? No bleeding wonder he had so many stacks, 14 x 12 = 168 stacks just from champion kills.

And having looked in detail there, you never even got close to putting him behind in farm, only at one point was he 10 below you but quickly caught up.

Are you seriously salty that you as a ranged toplaner got wrecked after you failed to drive him out of the lane? Given the rate he was farming at you should easily have been able to freeze it by your tower at some point, have your jungler come by and then kill his ass.

Instead i´ll just go ahead and assume that you pushed, he froze the wave and got to farm mostly safely for 10 minutes before he scored that first kill on you, which is no real surprise given that Ryze is weak early so Nasus who powerspikes much quicker with farm easily caught up.

HopeStartsWithUFeb 6, 20193 votes

He is making shit up, I have played against countless Nasus players, even lost to a few after the buff and yet have to see one who has 500-600 with 130-150cs. The guy, as you said, has to farm champions to get that score. It's impossible if nobody dies to the Nasus' Q.

ThefrostyvikingFeb 6, 20194 votes

Yep as i wrote i checked his history, that Nasus ended the game with 14 kills, which is 168 stacks from champion kills alone.

I mean, with him getting so fed that buff doesnt even matter, even if he only got half as many stacks from champions he´d eventually just farm a little more before snowballing further and ending the game on his own anyway.

HopeStartsWithUFeb 6, 20192 votes

Pretty much this. While it really is oppressive combined with his sustain, it's not as bad as some people exaggerate. The worst I've met had 200+ stacks at min 10 and that was because I failed to stop him from stacking. And I am someone who hates Nasus from deep within.

FSRERFeb 6, 20193 votes

In the older days, someone would be lucky if he had 100 stacks by 10 mins while now, 150 stacks in 10 is minimum

ThefrostyvikingFeb 6, 20191 votes

In older days lanebullies were more common and early sustain was weaker.

I still remember having to wait to like level 7 on old irelia to even have a shot at fighting teemo.....and this was granted he didnt manage to kill me or completely farm starve me on the way there.

Starcraft243verFeb 6, 20191 votes

In the older days when I mained nasus I could easily get 400 stacks by 20 minuts, so not much of a difference.

BavalFeb 6, 201915 votes

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This would have happened before the buffs as well. He stomped you and your team /shrug

It's still just as easy to deny somebody last hits. The fact many people consider Nasus strong just shows how bad most people are at this.

Id legitimately like to know how to deny Nasus last hits, since about 10 minutes into the game he should have enough damage that his Q kills minions at half health and will always have a much lower CD than any CC you have, and has enough sustain to take a hit to get a stack.

Unless your jungler camps him to keep him dead, hes going to get stacked. And all thats assuming hes not in the jungle himself to begin with.

Player342Feb 6, 20197 votes

Nasus is garbage in high elo

Bent PixelsFeb 6, 20199 votes

Perhaps, but low elo consists of like 90% of the entire league playerbase. Help us out rito plz

Player342Feb 6, 20194 votes

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Perhaps, but low elo consists of like 90% of the entire league playerbase. Help us out rito plz

What about high elo nasus mains? you want to make their champion unplayable just because you can't learn how to play the game? makes sense

JamareeFeb 6, 20194 votes

Is that even possible? I'm too lazy so someone else do the math.

NodirjonSattarovFeb 6, 201924 votes

He ended the game with 154 cs and 600 stacks while perma slowing me.

JamareeFeb 6, 20193 votes

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He ended the game with 154 cs and 600 stacks while perma slowing me.

Why didn't you buy Zhonya?

NodirjonSattarovFeb 6, 201940 votes

For him to just sit around me for 2 seconds until I get out of stasis? Are you stupid?

JamareeFeb 6, 20193 votes

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For him to just sit around me for 2 seconds until I get out of stasis? Are you stupid?

Are you? You are playing a champion that naturally counters Nasus and itemized poorly and somehow lost lane to him. You didn't buy Zhonya, you let him free farm to the point where he had obscene amounts of stacks early, and then blame a buff that even if it wasn't a thing, you would have still lost?

YennFeb 6, 201916 votes

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Are you? You are playing a champion that naturally counters Nasus and itemized poorly and somehow lost lane to him. You didn't buy Zhonya, you let him free farm to the point where he had obscene amounts of stacks early, and then blame a buff that even if it wasn't a thing, you would have still lost?

You can't really stop Nasus from farming anymore. He gets stacks too fast now and can just itemize defensively after Sheen, and it coincidentally also gives him ridiculous life steal.

You'll go OOM before Nasus has to leave the lane post-6.

JamareeFeb 6, 20193 votes

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You can't really stop Nasus from farming anymore. He gets stacks too fast now and can just itemize defensively after Sheen, and it coincidentally also gives him ridiculous life steal.

You'll go OOM before Nasus has to leave the lane post-6.

Is that why he still doesn't see play in the elos that actually matter?

YennFeb 6, 20199 votes

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Is that why he still doesn't see play in the elos that actually matter?

His win rate in Platinum+ is around 53% and his ban rate is 25% and climbing.

You need one of the very specific champions who can duel him, along with jungle coordination to shut him down, anything less and he's completely broken.

JamareeFeb 6, 20193 votes

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His win rate in Platinum+ is around 53% and his ban rate is 25% and climbing.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/jp/current/platinum/plus/champion/Nasus/

Where are you getting this info, because I see 49 to 51% in all regions except LAS and Japan.

You need one of the very specific champions who can duel him, along with jungle coordination to shut him down, anything less and he's completely broken.

No, no you don't.

ThefrostyvikingFeb 6, 20197 votes

The very site you linked shows 53% though.........at least for toplane.

9,3% pickrate and 17% banrate.

Vah MedohFeb 6, 20198 votes

https://imgur.com/a/c8NtDJ8

Global win rate, between 51%-56%.

DragonArtFeb 6, 20191 votes

Are you from the Spanish forum?

Vah MedohFeb 6, 20191 votes

Yes I am

AzzafistFeb 7, 20191 votes

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Is that why he still doesn't see play in the elos that actually matter?

Elos that actually matter, lol. You mean the minority of the player base? [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Spicy RiceFeb 7, 20191 votes

He means the player base that actually understands how the game should be played.

kingDeDeDariusFeb 6, 20192 votes

This is true. Even Darius has rough time with nas now, so I constantly ban nas

KFCeytronFeb 6, 20194 votes

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For him to just sit around me for 2 seconds until I get out of stasis? Are you stupid?

Zhonya's provides 45 armor.

NodirjonSattarovFeb 6, 201928 votes

Spirit Fire: For the next 5 seconds, enemies in the area have their Armor reduced by 15/20/25/30/35%

I feel like people just don't play the same game.

KFCeytronFeb 6, 20196 votes

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I feel like people just don't play the same game.

He leveled E at 2, 8, 12, 13, and 14, so it was 15-20% for most of the game. That's still around 35-40 armor from an item that starts at 45. I don't think that's a good justification to abandon all thought of building any armor.

EDIT: Or wait, was it this one? But they had 1 point in E until level 13, and you didn't buy any armor that game either, so I don't suppose it matters.

HateDaddyFeb 6, 20194 votes

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I feel like people just don't play the same game.

%shred sucks against anything basically under 100 armor. So at worst, it reduced 15 armor.

And Nasus getting stacked barely means anything now. There are several more reliable melee champions that do more damage and have better capacity to survive than Nasus does

BarcidFeb 7, 20191 votes

I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you, but there is a difference between "OMG this is so OP" and "This gives me cancer playing against it."

Nasus is in the latter and always is. He's not fun to play against plain and simple. The fact he's been given more power on top of his already "ugh" inducing single-target power just exacerbates the problem more.

OHminusFeb 6, 20193 votes

Math: Cannon minions spawn every 3 waves, making them appear once out of 19 minions spawned in that timeframe.

Assuming PERFECT stacking (last hitting every minion with Q): 130/19 x 12 = 82 stacks (130 - (130/19)) x 3 = 369 stacks Adding these together, 369 + 82 = 451 stacks

Now, if we take into account that Nasus players would want to stack Q on cannons more than ranged/melee creeps, we can feasibly assume that 130 cs does equal about 500 stacks.

Anchorit WracajFeb 6, 20194 votes

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/overview/nasus/diamond I am taking for instansce the Diamond... No...IDC about bronzes,iron and silver players and their banrates and winrates... Those players believe that Akali and irelia are weak...LMAO. 11 year old kids that instalocks yasuo nd master yi every game shouldn't have any right to implement their "ideas" to league,cause they have no idea wtf they're doing and they just need to enjoy the game and be quiet. Ryze...it must feels bad that you got outplayed by Nasus,ranged top laner nd u still couldn't do sh1t...he stacked minions and champions,congrats on ur bad game,it just shows ur lack of skill,but yeah..you had to come to the boards to say nasus is OP... 4.6 pick rate,48.1% win rate,6.1% banrate..Is not op at all,hes unplayable in higher elo due.But yeah,maybe you will see that once u climb.. But board whiners dont usually climb so yeah..gl

ThefrostyvikingFeb 6, 20192 votes

I mean i cant say anything about akali but irelia has like 45% winrate even in diamond with just 10% pick and 10% banrate you know?

And Nasus isnt unplayable in higher elo i think, he´d have a much lower winrate if he was, but he is not generally viable and can only be picked into matchups you know he works into. '

Not like say midlane where you can pick vel´koz into basically anything and still either do well or at least alright until later where you do well.

boricCentaur1Feb 6, 20194 votes

And yet he is still bad.

GripaAviaraFeb 6, 20192 votes

What's the biggest BS is that he can go jungle, and get farm pretty fast with his sustain

Iron PhantomFeb 6, 20192 votes

Nasus's biggest weakness is armour, you stack a small amount of armour and he won't be able to roll over you.

Also Nasus is a monster at 1v1ing people that's how he was designed, so never fight him 1v1 or you will lose period.

ISeeDumbPeopleFeb 6, 20192 votes

Lol and yet he is mostly worthless in team fights if you build proper damage or protect your hp melters/carries. Now if he is split pushing all game that is the annoying part.

xAcidikFeb 6, 20191 votes

Whaaaaaat? You got snowballed by a champ and he got strong? Blasphemy! That's not an in-built League mechanic!

BoilTheOilFeb 6, 20191 votes

Idk why you're complaining about nasus when you're playing as ryze against him, sure you probably can't kill him, but he shouldn't be able to kill you either because you have root + phase rush (gives slow resistance) + overload . If you didn't have a udyr or sylas then the game probably woulda went a lot better. (tabi that game woulda probably been better)

LordGeovanniFeb 7, 20191 votes

w 40% cdr and a further 50% during ult cdr on top of that while ult has almost no cooldown.

I Love RosesFeb 7, 20191 votes

Still can't do shit.

tommyIAOFeb 7, 20191 votes

fk I knew something was fishy. I played pantheon eariler this week vs nasus. Killed him 8 times took first tower 10 minutes later he had 500 stacks I THOUGHT I HAD LOST MY MIND.