@fizz enthusiast Picked up fizz today! I hit a zilean with max range ult as fizz.

He pressed R at some point. I 100-0 him he revives with full hp and still has his other cooldowns meanwhile my entire kit is on cooldown. Well that's fair he outplayed me with his point and click that I can't counterplay or counter build. If he had any allies nearby I would be dead.

So I understand where riot is coming from on the whole assassins need counterplay thing. I think the reworks put them in a much better place when playing against them. But when the overwhelming majority of what counters assassins are point and clicks that they cannot outplay or counter build what do we do because hope they screw up isn't a good answer. Worse unless you are playing something like rengar a lot of late game adc's can just drain tank you to death because you can't burst through the lifetseal with your 2-4 second burst windows. I've taken 1600 damage from a vayne using an ult tumble auto. I dont know about you but I can't out burst that.

What is the team's views on this because I can be 100-0'd by an adc using nothing but auto attacks before my 2 second mandatory wait for w is even available. There are hundreds of similar cases for the other point and clicks in this game that counter assassins without a way to be outplayed but I'd be here for a while if I tried to list even a quarter of them.