Broken Champions(laning) Discussion

I NEED HEALlNG··1 votes·391 views

I'd like to know what you guys think of these champions and my thoughts of their toxic game play in my opinion

*see that word, opinion? Please have a discussion and try not to hive mind down votes like I've seen so many times. thank you :) *

Now Most of these champion i don't necessarily think of as "OMG SO BROKEN WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS???", i just think their laning phases are extremely toxic, with little to no counter play and just ruin the game with forcing you to sit under tower until they can dive you. It makes for an extremely un-fun experience and ruins the game of "OH YOU OUTPLAYED ME? WELL IT'S MY TIME TO SHINE OR YOU DINE". I love champions that provide clear counterplay with their kit/mechanics. Those like Kled for example. Get him unmounted, wait for him to farm with passive, all in him. But there are a few who i see just RUINS this game. Who ruins this game for you? For me I think Pantheon. I don't feel like i need to go into detail about him. Most sane people(yea i said it) realize that he has a very, VERY, binary toxic laning phase. You get rewarded for basically nothing, and i feel like his kit is too overloaded for the phase. Maybe Panth is one of those "We made him, we fucked up, now we have to deal with him" champions. I don't feel like he should be able to all in someone, take a turret shot, reset shield so easily, and still be quite, QUITE, tanky while doing so. I feel like the juggernaut rework might have been a way to shake up the meta, but it got out of control. And before you say "MANA ISSUES" please realize that's the least of his worries. Like seriously, you obvsly play panth and realize by the first back you need not worry about that too much.

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Illivashi1 votes

I don't play many champions so I can't tell you what to do vs pantheon in every situation. But when playing Singed I either proxy the first 3 lvls to not deal with pantheon, or I play super passively early. First thing I do is fake a leash, if I am lucky he starts attacking minions while I am hiding to start the push. If he is smart he wont hard push you and will try to punish you for cs lvl 1. You just gotta deal with this (corrupting potion might be a good idea), run forward and barely last hit minions and then run back way past spear range and wait, you may have to give up caster minions until it pushes harder, accept this and dont get poked out for them. Luckily him poking you when you go to hit the melee minions will also cause the lane to push against you harder. At this point the wave is pushing to my tower and he has lvl 2, and I still passively cs by tower. When it reaches tower I gas the whole wave and deal with a spear or two in return. After that back (for me starting seal and refillable it would be for corrupting pots). At this point with corrupting and ignite I am more confident against his poke. If he doesn't realize this and continue to push me, I let him reach my tower and then the next time he walks up to q me I ghost and fling him under turret and run him down.

The Biggest advice I would have is to try and get a better understanding of how much sustain you can have on certain champs, know when to give up cs, and know when you can get dove and if need be give up a wave rather than being dove and killed (and lose the wave anyway).

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