Is paid coaching actually worth it?

Tuition Fee·Feb 23, 2019·2 votes·3,465 views

I've been hardstuck silver and trying to start a high school esports team. We literally only have people at silver-gold tiers, who buy diamond accounts, which is why I want to get better (to coach everyone else). I've been looking around at coaches, such as on gamersensei.com, but the coaches seem way too cheap and when I tried googling one guy's username, it turns out the account is unranked. I've also seen some posts on how actual coaching is $100+ per hour. Anyone know if these sessions actually work, and if the coaches are actually certified and not gold players with a slightly better understanding of the game?

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DOUBLE TAPPED EFeb 23, 20193 votes

I know you aren't asking for specific game advice in this thread, and I've already posted but... here's my suggestion: -Know every champion in the game, and what every single one of their abilities do. -Think about how your champion interacts with each champion on the enemy team while you are in the loading screen. -And MOST IMPORTANTLY, always remember...

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/1b/1b84def4c43585ebc4155db5309870b0fef2a0e0f7bce3d0d58d583d624f44be.jpg

The EcdysiastFeb 23, 20192 votes

Paid coaching for league is as worth it as paid coaching for anything else you might do. Chess, golf, landscape painting, etc. It's worth to you what you think improving in that skill is worth.

That said, unlike something in-person, you get a virtually identical experience just watching tip videos.

Tuition FeeFeb 23, 20191 votes

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Paid coaching for league is as worth it as paid coaching for anything else you might do. Chess, golf, landscape painting, etc. It's worth to you what you think improving in that skill is worth.

That said, unlike something in-person, you get a virtually identical experience just watching tip videos.

Hm... I'm a pretty shitty league player either way, so please pray for my lesson to go well! Last resort AF D:

TheUrbanKitsuneFeb 23, 20192 votes

Unless you plan on actually going pro I'd say it's def not worth your money. There are plenty of online resources like videos and written guides available for free. You just have to put the time into researching and understanding them.

Tuition FeeFeb 23, 20191 votes

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Unless you plan on actually going pro I'd say it's def not worth your money. There are plenty of online resources like videos and written guides available for free. You just have to put the time into researching and understanding them.

Do you have any links? I've tried to google stuff, but it's just rudimentary advice like "Don't stand too close to your enemy" "Drop wards" "Kite them" "Build ___ first because it's good against assassins" and etc.

TheUrbanKitsuneFeb 23, 20192 votes

Yep! Skill caped Challenger has a ton of free guides that use in game examples of how to execute various concepts. Lot's of good info on wave control, macro, and ways to carry games.

https://www.youtube.com/user/SkillCappedDotNet

Tuition FeeFeb 23, 20191 votes

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Yep! Skill caped Challenger has a ton of free guides that use in game examples of how to execute various concepts. Lot's of good info on wave control, macro, and ways to carry games.

https://www.youtube.com/user/SkillCappedDotNet

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TheUrbanKitsuneFeb 23, 20191 votes

No problem, dude. Hope it helps. I play for my university's League team and my ADC showed me this channel, I love their content.

KoiyakiFeb 23, 20192 votes

if you want some help, i'd be willing to help u, add me on league :3

also forgot to actually answer ur question:

coaching is what u make it. if u listen to what ur being told and u actually practice, then it'll work out.

if u only sparingly practice or only do the things ur told while ur coach is watching..then no its a big waste of money.

u get wat u put in

Tuition FeeFeb 23, 20191 votes

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if you want some help, i'd be willing to help u, add me on league :3

also forgot to actually answer ur question:

coaching is what u make it. if u listen to what ur being told and u actually practice, then it'll work out.

if u only sparingly practice or only do the things ur told while ur coach is watching..then no its a big waste of money.

u get wat u put in

Thank you kind sir ;-;

BigFBearFeb 23, 20192 votes

Can you please hit everyone who buyed a Dia Acc in the face as hard as you can? These people fucked my Dia Promos.

Tuition FeeFeb 23, 20191 votes

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Can you please hit everyone who buyed a Dia Acc in the face as hard as you can? These people fucked my Dia Promos.

Sure How many slaps do you want

DOUBLE TAPPED EFeb 23, 20191 votes

It depends on the coach and their coaching method, honestly. I got coaching a while back and it was pointed out to me that the reason I'm losing so many games where I get fed is because I'm not pushing my advantage hard enough, and not using my strength to take objectives and push for a win before the enemy has a chance to recover.

So I guess if you are looking at all the information available to you, and you can't put your finger on where it is you're going wrong, coaching might be an option if your desire to improve exceeds the cost. Like someone else said though, all the information you need is out there for free, but it can be a time-saver to have someone tell you exactly what you need to improve.

Tuition FeeFeb 23, 20191 votes

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It depends on the coach and their coaching method, honestly. I got coaching a while back and it was pointed out to me that the reason I'm losing so many games where I get fed is because I'm not pushing my advantage hard enough, and not using my strength to take objectives and push for a win before the enemy has a chance to recover.

So I guess if you are looking at all the information available to you, and you can't put your finger on where it is you're going wrong, coaching might be an option if your desire to improve exceeds the cost. Like someone else said though, all the information you need is out there for free, but it can be a time-saver to have someone tell you exactly what you need to improve.

I've had diamond friends point out that the some of the biggest reasons as to why I lose are:

I tilt easily
I'm easily distracted by real life stuff (So if my rabbit brushes against my leg I'll probably pet him while I'm still running to lane, and end up dying to my laner because I was AFK)
I need to stop playing support just because I find CSing mundane, apparently I'm awful at the role :c (Done it, winrate at 67% now)
I can't dodge skillshots for shit
Both my macros and micros are bad enough that they think it's a miracle that I'm still in silver (Not sure if this is banter or if they're actually serious)

I feel like at this point I shouldn't be ranking ;-; probably a hindrance to my team tbh

DOUBLE TAPPED EFeb 23, 20191 votes

Meh, eventually if you keep playing ranked, you will end up exactly where you should be, and everyone will be an equal hindrance to each other, and all will be right with the world.