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@Riot: So about Twitch...

the weeaboo··3 votes·585 views

As a rat main I cant help but give you guys feedback on the Twitch updates. Everything changed when The Assassin Update attacked.

But seriously the Twitch main community is in a bit of an upset seeing as you've made one of his core items completely unviable on him, and also made his escape (clutch Qs) impossible as well. So compared up to a game where every other ADC in the game has some sort of dash or MS boost you've crippled him without his ult.

Yes he is strong ATM just because of his damage output in team fights and skirmishes, how does that even close to compare to another hypercarry like Jinx. Jinx's passive is basically the same as Twitches Q but on passive and no activation/in combat delay. She has large AoE anytime for clearing. Her W does fairly massive damage, as well as a big slow and she has some hard CC.

Twitch gets a pretty situational auto steroid, a slow with no damage, and a nuke that requires at the very least 2 seconds to apply with max attack speed. The only thing he has going for him is his massive collateral damage in fights and the fact he got Spray and Pray back.

Thoughts on this or changes in the future? Twitch is in a very awkward place right now.

9 Comments

legionnaire991 votes

Yeah there also nerfing one of his core idemsitem 3142

Branagen1 votes

Fk me what are they doing to him? Can you share link with this update info.

Frustrating when Riot seems to love some adc's so much but hate Twitch.

the weeaboo1 votes

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Fk me what are they doing to him? Can you share link with this update info.

Frustrating when Riot seems to love some adc's so much but hate Twitch.

Youmuus is having its attack speed removed, and now gives an active block on one auto attack as long as you don't attack first

Q is being turned into a temporary Evelynn passive + Vayne passive. Lasts 10-15 seconds. Active instantly when not in combat

This guy sums it up well: https://www.reddit.com/r/TwitchMains/comments/58b7k5/with_twitch_changes_all_over_the_place_here_is_a/?st=IUIQLHU7&sh=ebfef47e

Branagen1 votes

Looks like they're mixing current Twitch with how he was before last nerf where they like doubled the time for his q to stealth with aggro.

And of course mixing in the new stealth mechanics.

So he will passive stealth out of combat, but hitting q will stealth him immediately if in combat?

Are they changing his passive or attack speed buff from his Q?

the weeaboo1 votes

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Looks like they're mixing current Twitch with how he was before last nerf where they like doubled the time for his q to stealth with aggro.

And of course mixing in the new stealth mechanics.

So he will passive stealth out of combat, but hitting q will stealth him immediately if in combat?

Are they changing his passive or attack speed buff from his Q?

No they are making it so if theres no nearby enemies you stealth instantly when you use Q. Otherwise you get the normal delay. You get the same buffs, MS and AS. But the MS is increased to 30% when moving towards an enemy champ that doesn't see you. 10% if they see you or you're not running towards an enemy.

Also another thing is the W lingers and applies more stacks the longer you stand on it after the initial 2 stacks. Ult and passive the same.

Azteryz1 votes

i for one am not a twitch main but i was wondering what you think of his w lingering and applying stacks if they stay within the poison stack cloud?

the weeaboo2 votes

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i for one am not a twitch main but i was wondering what you think of his w lingering and applying stacks if they stay within the poison stack cloud?

I think it will make the most impact on Jungle Twitch since the camps will stay in it for a while, and based on the changes we can expect a lot more jungle Twitches now.

In terms of how strong it will be in lane... fairly good buff. It will make his trades slightly better at least, and will make his synergy with CC supports like Morgana and Blitz more potent. Although between all the dashes and movement speed, I don't think it will make a huge difference.

If I was going to give it a change to put Twitch in a good place I'd make it work like Miasma where you can't dash or flash off of it to compensate for Twitchs lack of mobility. Then the changes riot just made would be okay

IceKingChernobog1 votes

Since this change will most likely go through, it seems like maxing W second is going to be a thing. But the problem is, twitch's W is near usless

GoronMuncherV1 votes

He's definitely being put in a weaker position overall. While I'd love for them to keep the current stealth mechanics so we could continue his sneaking; I highly doubt Riot would comply. In that case, I'd like to see the attack speed nerf on his Q reverted and the movement speed buff when stealthed normally bumped back up to 20% with either just the 10% buff towards enemies or even a 40% buff. With the detection radius, 30% isn't actually all that great considering you'll likely be trying to sneak around them on a wide arc to avoid detection, resulting in the buff not working for most of the maneuver.

Riot need to realize exactly what they are taking away by making his stealth camo: -Can't really escape -Can't juke -Can't re-position as effectively in fights -Can't engage in fights as effectively in lane -Arguably can't engage in ganks as effectively, even with the movement buff

That's a lot lost for the small gains we're being given. I just hope something changes in the next 3 weeks...

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