Nerfing Riven's shield to not work when running, would make her less healthy

Arya Riven··4 votes·927 views

There is in fact only one mobility spell I know of that doesn't at least do 2 things. Talon I might be mistaken, I don't play him.

Yet there is all this heated hatred for Riven's E because it gives a shield. Which makes no sense, her Q is a three part short range dash that does damage and a knockup. It gets three parts but is shorter range than many other dashes, which yes has many advantages, but also some disadvantages. Then she gets a very short range, cannot pass through walls dash that does no damage, instead it shields. There are plenty of champions in the game who have 2 abilities with mobility as well, and still have CC and damage in their kits.

The suggestions to remove the shield, are huge calls for gutting. Some people try to soften it "Only gets the shield when going in on people." Which would still mean Riven is 100% assured to lose all these matchup. Renekton Fiora Jayce Kennen Quinn Camille Kayle Mordekaiser Poppy Kled Pantheon Tryndamere Garen Riven already loses these but now would lose them harder.

Darius Gangplank Irelia Malphite Maokai Nasus Rumble Ryze Shen Yasuo Swain Vladimir Riven tends to win these and now would lose them horribly.

And suggestions to make the shield only work when running away, and then buff her damage/kit to compensate... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4 That is all we need is or Riven to be more feast/famine, even better at top tier play, and worse at low tier play.

If you want to discuss reasonable or fair Riven nerfs, which she will likely need when lethality is buffed. Please let me know :)

Sincerely - ribbonmainlcsoutplays

Champions with more than one effect on their mobility spell.

Aatrox Leap, knockup, damage. Ahri Dash, damage. Akali Dash, damage. Also blink, stealth. Alistar Dash, knockback, damage. Amumu Dash, root, damage. Azir Dash, damage. Braum Dash, buff stats of self and ally. Caitlyn Dash, slow, AA damage buff, damage. Camille Dash, stun, damage. Corki Leap, AoE damage dot. Diana Dash, damage, resetting. Ekko Dash/blink, damage. Also return dash, damage and heal. Ezreal Dash, damage. Fiora Dash, damage, resetting cooldown. Fizz Dash, damage. Also leap, untargetable, damage. Gnar Leap, bounce, damage, slow. Gragas Dash, damage, knockback. Graves Dash, defensive steroid(even when running away), reset ammo. Hecarim Hyper speed, knockback, damage. Also dash, AoE fear, damage. Irelia Dash, damage, applies on hit effects. Ivern Root into dash, provides team dash, damage. JarvanIV Dash, knockup, damage. Also leap, damage, AoE wall. Jax Leap, Damage. Jayce Leap, damage. Kassadin Blink, damage(less than 2s CD full build). Katarina Blink, damage, resets. Khazix Leap, damage, kill reset. Kindred Leap, multitargeted damage. Kled Dash, damage, secondary dash. Also Long range dash+team movespeed into damage and CC. LeeSin Damage into dash, into damage. Malphite Dash, damage, knockup, unstoppable. Maokai Dash, damage, root. MasterYi Dash, damage, untargetable. Nautilus Dash, root, knockback, damage. Nidalee Dash, damage. (very spammable) Nocturne Long range dash, global nearsighted, damage. Pantheon Leap, stun, damage. Poppy Charge, damage, knockback, conditional stun. Quinn Dash, knockback, slow, damage. Renekton Dash, damage, secondary dash. Rengar Leap, damage. Riven Dash/Leap, damage, knockup. (Spammable). Also Dash, shield. Sejuani Dash, knockup, damage. Shaco Blink, stealth, damage buff. Shen Dash, taunt, damage. Also global teleport, shield. Shyvana Dash, damage, health gain, ability transformation, unstoppable, knockback. Sion Long cast dash, damage, CC. (Requires setup.) Taliyah Trump's wall Long range wall, map mobility. Thresh Drag into dash, damage. Tristana Long leap, damage. Tryndamere Dash, damage, CDR effect. TwistedFate Long range teleport, global truesight. Vayne Low cooldown dash, stealth during ult, damage. Vi Dash, knockup, damage. Also Dash, unstoppable, knockup, damage. Warwick Dash, switcharound effect, damage. Also long range dash, suppression, damage. MonkeyKing Dash, damage, AS steroid XinZhao Dash, damage. Yasuo Dash, damage. Zac Huge leap, knockup, damage. Zed Blink, also allows ability duplication. Ziggs Leap, damage, knockup/back, tower detonation.

11 Comments

Sahn Uzal2 votes

Riven Slaughters Gangplank though, unless Jungler influence happens and GP gets a decent lead before Riven reaches level 6. And even then GP has to watch his steps against her.

Arya Riven1 votes

I agreed on that in my post.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Are you trying to be the Malicious Metal of Riven?

If so you're on a good track.

I agree with you on the shield. She literally has nothing else attached to the shield, not even damage. She might as well have this.

Arya Riven1 votes

I'm just trying to make sure when the community pushes Riot into nerfing Riven, they nerf the right things. Which would be her E CD late game and/or her AD scalings. So that when Riven does well she isn't too overbearing, but when she is behind she isn't dead weight.

I'd rather no nerfs of course, what main wouldn't want their champion good? But Riot often bends to low elo players spam posting on the boards for upvotes. I'm just trying to make sure Riven doesn't end up like so many other clunky, unplayable champions who were picked apart bit by bit. Gragas

Apocalypsic2 votes

Riven doesn't need a single nerf, but honestly based on how they responded to the communities most recent circle jerk I fear for what they might do anyways.

WoonStruck1 votes

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I'm just trying to make sure when the community pushes Riot into nerfing Riven, they nerf the right things. Which would be her E CD late game and/or her AD scalings. So that when Riven does well she isn't too overbearing, but when she is behind she isn't dead weight.

Basically.

The only issue with Riven is her CDs, possibly scaling like you said. You could argue early game base numbers too, but that would likely come with compensation.

DorkunedAuras2 votes

Same thing applies to heals. Look at all the heals that don't give something else, aren't just +HP. You have soraka.

And before anyone says Taric's, AoE heal

sit kid1 votes

Azir Dash, knockup, damage.

Have you slept under a rock?

Arya Riven1 votes

To be fair, I haven't seen an azir in over a year.

Ralanr1 votes

Clearly the rock was not in Shurima.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Have you slept under a rock?

It should be 'Dash, shield, SHURIMA SHUFFLE'

Oh and for Talon Q it crits if used at melee range

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