As a Shen player, I am torn about this tank update.

Melledoneus··1 votes·837 views

#1. We are getting tank base stats updated and items will emphasize those. On the plus side... Shen will be a part of that (hopefully) and he will most likely benefit from this change.

On the downside... Having free MR per level might prove to be an issue for Shen since his only damage is flat %HP magic damage, which falls off the hardest against any MR, meaning tanks will destroy him just by leveling up. Additionally, Shen's base stats are horrid compared to other tanks and Riot might continue this trend.

#2. New tank items means new passives and actives for tanks to use. On the plus side... Shen might benefit from these items and be able to help cover any glaring weaknesses he currently has, as well as reduce the amount of his lane counters being played.

On the downside... Shen might become broken or miss out on the strongest item given during the update. Additionally, more ways to disable people also hurts Shen since he only has one way to engage on a relatively long cooldown, and one way to protect his allies also on long cooldowns.

#3. The tank meta. On the plus side... A tank meta. Shen actually has time to win his sustained damage fights with his resets rather than getting blown up in seconds. His lane counters contain very few tanks as well. Also, Shen will see more play and maybe Riot will finally realize after all the complaints of the people picking him up how buggy and clunky he is.

On the downside... A tank meta. A bunch of tankier dudes with more CC running around. Makes you feel like the kid on the bleachers.


That's my take on it. Fire away at what you are looking forward to and not looking forward to with this Vanguard update.

3 Comments

Big Lincoln1 votes

not really excited with how the Sejuani sounds. I know I shitpost a lot about her being a juggernaut (it's jokes, i promise), but I really don't like the premise of her being primarily supportive.

kind of worried with how the base stat/item changes will affect juggernauts as well, they're already in a fairly precarious spot, I hope they don't get forgotten or worse, indirectly nerfed from the adjustments.

I would like to see tank items take a more active role; I think item 3110 item 3075 are 'toxic' because they give you a lot of power that can't be noticed or played around until it's directly affecting someone, and they haven't been very good items for a long time. It would be a good way to differentiate raw tank-utility items and things that are heavier on stats like item 3742, so that you could sacrifice a little bit of raw durability for conditional but powerful strength, and vice versa

Mordepool1 votes

They have said Juggernauts base stats multiple times. I'm just hoping that Mordekaiser gets so buffs

  1. ALL of his core items have been nerfed Steraks, Rylais( hurts bad), Gunblade, Boots of swiftness. At no point did he get compensated.
  2. his base stats overall are statistically the worst
  3. there are parts of his kit that are 100% useless ( XP passive) 4)His winrate in all Elos dropped by 5-7% after the Rylais nerf. Seriously WTF rito
  4. I'm almost 100% certain that any new items introduced won't synergize with Mordes kit
allsin031 votes

just throw in shen old dash with reduced cd time and a stronger passive. i will be fine

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