Zed's ult should just deal 20/35/50% of the damage dealt again as the same damage type

Aazzlano·Apr 30, 2015·1 votes·500 views

His ult applies all the damage as physical. So if you are below 50% and he autos you during his ult, since his passive is magic damage, you will mitigate it with your MR (and his lack of magic penetration) but when his ult procs, it becomes physical damage and the damage before resistances is applied again against your armor. Meaning you will take 50% of 6/8/10% of your health as physical damage instead of as magic damage, which is affected by his Armor Pen. So even if his passive didn't really do that much damage on the initial hit, when his ult pops it will apply fully with Last Whisper etc. This doesn't make any sense.

2 Comments

JustMyBassCannonApr 30, 20152 votes

It's not like innate Armor naturally scales to double/triple of innate MR.

Wait...

The5lackerApr 30, 20152 votes

And people continue to not understand how penetration works.

News flash: Buying Last Whisper doesn't read "+10,000% physical damage." If you're actually building to counter Zed, I.E. buying Armor, then no matter how much Armor Pen he builds your effective MR against him is going to be lower. Always. Without exception.

Want me to prove it with basic mathematics? Because I can prove it with basic mathematics.

Lets say Zed's rocking a Last Whisper. That's 35% Armor Penetration, right? Right. Now, lets say you're the average champion at level 18 with a base Armor of 75 and a base MR of 50 (these are rough estimations but serve to illustrate my point well enough.) Now, lets say you've got MR per level runes and flat Armor runes, bumping these numbers up to about 85 Armor and 70 MR, respectively. Now, lets say you aren't a moron and you're buying Armor to counter Zed, not MR. That means you've probably bought a Randuin's Omen (+70 Armor), Iceborn Gauntlet (+60 Armor), or maybe even a Frozen Heart (+100 Armor) So your total Armor is going to be around 155 or higher. Reasonable assessment, correct?

Armor = 155 Magic Resistance = 80

These numbers seem reasonable to you for the average bruiser? Okay, good. Now, lets apply 35% Armor Penetration to this equation.

Armor = 155 - (155 x 0.35 = 55) = 100 Magic Resistance = 80

My would you look at that. Even with a Last Whisper, if you haven't built any MR, your effective MR against Zed is going to be lower than your effective Armor.