PSA: If your Eve/Shaco etc. is soloing Dragon during laning phase DO NOT COME

Aazzlano·May 4, 2016·39 votes·2,704 views

99.999% they don't want help (unless they are asking for it, obviously), especially if it's pinked. You going will do NOTHING beneficial and will only alert the enemy team that you guys are doing Dragon when it would have been free. Just stay in lane, push lane, get your farm. At the most, be ready to respond if things go sour, but do NOT give away that they are doing Dragon. It's rare that people understand this sadly, even in Diamond.

Thanks, An Eve Main

49 Comments

The DeckownerMay 4, 201615 votes

Not coming when the jungler needs them is also freaking stupid. I play tank junglers who really cant solo dragon, after winning a teamfight or got a successful gank i asked for assistance at drag and my god damn adc/mid is always like "yah yah im coming just let me get like 9000 more cs first" causing me to get low, cant kill drag, and has to recall right away.

ClaireRedfieldMay 4, 20161 votes

Guilty....unless these new dragons are actually something special I'll be ignoring you(and your dragons) and killing towers after a teamfight/kill while you spam ping me.

-adc main.

The DeckownerMay 4, 20165 votes

new drag/rift herald are much more important than towers now.

Demon King MaouMay 4, 201612 votes

Everyone does this and gives it away its like i had it solo so why the fk are you here?

AazzlanoMay 4, 20162 votes

Yeah it's really annoying. Especially when you have Hunter's Potion and they last hit it, and you don't get a stack for your pot back.

Hello I am BirdMay 4, 20162 votes

You get stacks of the pot from Drag/Rift Herald?

AazzlanoMay 5, 20161 votes

Yes, but only if you last hit it. If you assist, you do not get the stack. So like if there is no enemies around and you don't want to use Smite, your laner will probably take it and you won't get a stack back.

haseothepkkerMay 4, 201610 votes

Being a Shaco jungler this means so much to me. However, the concept goes beyond just dragon. Even when ganking, don't start acting aggressive and pushing the moment I step into river. It's like people forget or simply don't know that mind games are the leading factor to successful ganks. Especially so with stealth based ganks. If you're acting all suspicious an shit the enemy will notice that, and book it. As Shaco let me do my damn job, stealth up close, and get elbow deep in the adc's ass before you start going ham.

Kr1sysMay 4, 20161 votes

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Being a Shaco jungler this means so much to me. However, the concept goes beyond just dragon. Even when ganking, don't start acting aggressive and pushing the moment I step into river. It's like people forget or simply don't know that mind games are the leading factor to successful ganks. Especially so with stealth based ganks. If you're acting all suspicious an shit the enemy will notice that, and book it. As Shaco let me do my damn job, stealth up close, and get elbow deep in the adc's ass before you start going ham.

Yep. Teammates love to just go HAM when you Q in as Shaco so they back out immediately and then they're like, 'wtf shaco u noob'. When all you can do at that point is throw out a single E.

ChoaruMay 4, 20161 votes

I think you mean poking them :^)

BremerdanGorstMay 4, 20168 votes

Wait...Eve can solo Dragon? This is honestly news to me.

Nameless VoiceMay 4, 20164 votes

This. By the time Eve is strong enough to solo dragon, the laning phase is usually over.

AazzlanoMay 5, 20161 votes

What? You can solo Dragon with any of the jungle items, or less than that if you are going Warrior, you could do it with just a few long swords.

PePsiLemoNNMay 4, 20166 votes

Eve can't even solo the blue lol

Athenes LuluMay 4, 20163 votes

This isn't really Shaco/Eve-exclusive, just anyone with good sustained clears (cough WW/Kindred/Udyr) usually can solo drag.

DutchMattMay 4, 20162 votes

and new malz can do it really quickly too

PoskeMay 4, 20161 votes

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This isn't really Shaco/Eve-exclusive, just anyone with good sustained clears (cough WW/Kindred/Udyr) usually can solo drag.

Lee sin could do it at lvl 4

Since smite + spellwamp no longer works i guess he can do it at lvl 7

elise , panth , yi , jax can all easly do it

AazzlanoMay 5, 20161 votes

Well the point is that you can get into the pit without any possibility of being seen (as you can scout for pinks first) and with a pink inside the pit, there is no way they could know you are doing it (unless you cleared a ward inside the pit obviously) even if they have scuttle taken.

Other junglers have a way higher chance of being spotted. So yeah this could apply to others but it's mostly for these, and like Fiddle also cause he can do drag really early (or used to be able to)

ViashinoWizardMay 4, 20162 votes

This goes for Fiddlesticks too.

9kPluzZMay 4, 20162 votes

PSA: anything posted to league boards, is NOT a public service announcement. Pls stop with this egotistic bullshit.

Thanks, Annoyed Gamer

It Hertz When IPMay 4, 20161 votes

It would be fine if half of them weren't retarded "well no shit" posts. This one happens to be an actual tip/reminder, but there are an awful lot of "PSAs" that are just people voicing their opinions.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 4, 20161 votes

sometimes i solo baron. type in chat. "don't come" and they come so i have to back off because enemy leaves lanes and i cant risk throwing at baron. if am playing jax or xin or someone who can solo baron

oenomausMay 4, 20161 votes

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sometimes i solo baron. type in chat. "don't come" and they come so i have to back off because enemy leaves lanes and i cant risk throwing at baron. if am playing jax or xin or someone who can solo baron

I went full ad Sion just for fun once in a while and I said don't come help me with baron.........whole team shows up and one even said "this Sion so dumb hes trying to solo baron" our whole team ends up dying but I manage to steal it with my death passive. no buff for anyone. laners stay the hell away when we ask you to.

jaymc1130May 4, 20161 votes

Preach it!

Stained SpearMay 4, 20161 votes

You solo dragons in diamond? What the fuck kind of game am I playing where i have to pink my blue every game to not get invaded by a goddamn amumu or something in plat.

jaymc1130May 4, 20161 votes

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You solo dragons in diamond? What the fuck kind of game am I playing where i have to pink my blue every game to not get invaded by a goddamn amumu or something in plat.

Plat... Hell, half of diamond are terrible players too. Just being honest man. Lol, most of us suck balls at this game. You can say whatever you want about my D1 ranking, I'm fully aware of just how big a scrub I really am. There's like 15 good players in the whole entire world. Just 15. The rest of us all suck. Some less than others, but we all still suck.

Stained SpearMay 4, 20162 votes

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Plat... Hell, half of diamond are terrible players too. Just being honest man. Lol, most of us suck balls at this game. You can say whatever you want about my D1 ranking, I'm fully aware of just how big a scrub I really am. There's like 15 good players in the whole entire world. Just 15. The rest of us all suck. Some less than others, but we all still suck.

I've seen sneaky's stream, he's trash xD. Idk why but after I graduated silver soloing dragons just seems to be extremely rare for me even if I can easily do it with my main, xin zhao. I feel like it is way too dangerous at nearly every part of the game and it costs all of my mana or health whatever jungler you use. It doesnt seem worth it however with the new dragons maybe they might be.

jaymc1130May 4, 20163 votes

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I've seen sneaky's stream, he's trash xD. Idk why but after I graduated silver soloing dragons just seems to be extremely rare for me even if I can easily do it with my main, xin zhao. I feel like it is way too dangerous at nearly every part of the game and it costs all of my mana or health whatever jungler you use. It doesnt seem worth it however with the new dragons maybe they might be.

First drake was definitely worth it if you could solo it early. I like to create a situation where I know the enemy jungler will be on the top half of the map and do this right after hitting 6 and completing my jungler item. As soon as I see them top side, if I'm not engaged in a gank, I beeline to drake and nab it covert style. As eve, even if they have the drake scuttle and think they have vision its possible to walk to the back of the pit and be invisible while doing this. The crab buff circle doesn't provide vision of the dragon itself so it cant be seen.

It is definitely dangerous though, you have to make absolutely certain you aren't witnessed heading there and that the enemy can't react because of their position on the map. I wouldn't say that its rare that I have an opportunity to do this, but it certainly isn't common.

vampirekid13May 4, 20163 votes

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to not get invaded by a goddamn amumu

what did i just read?

Hello I am BirdMay 4, 20162 votes

He does a surprising amount of damage....

vampirekid13May 4, 20161 votes

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He does a surprising amount of damage....

to....level 1 sona with no runes?

Surr20plzMay 4, 20161 votes

This is any jg, why would you say shaco or eve?

QjTHqo3RTqMay 4, 20161 votes

Because they can stealth into drag pit, so they can avoid wards

TotalJerkMay 4, 20161 votes

Same If If they're playing any champion that can solo drag early.

Supreme Senpai69May 4, 20161 votes

I don't come help unless i have vision on enemies or my jungler pings for help. Otherwise bot disappearing is basically "yo they're on dragon collapse on them"

billxxMay 4, 20161 votes

This. I was soloing drag as xin and bot decided to make it obvious that they were going to help. Everyone died.

Mirage SeraphMay 4, 20161 votes

Every game... Khazix "I'm gonna solo drag at 4, apply pressure please" Mid goes back, ADC sits at turret cs'ing, support comes up to help. Killing myself softly.

trash sionMay 4, 20161 votes

Wait, am I playing Eve wrong? Soloing dragon?

ElewdMay 4, 20161 votes

if my jungler is soloing dragon and im playing support zyra, i run up like im warding river (i normally drop a ward anyway) but i place a plant over the wall as well just to give a bit of extra damage out there.

AgentBlackMay 4, 20161 votes

cough FIDDLESTICKS cough. I may be slow, but god damn if I need your help to take dragon at lvl 4.

Shadow HazardMay 4, 20161 votes

There are a lot of junglers that can solo drag early and all throughout the game. If the jungler wants help they will defs say something or at least ping, otherwise make sure the enemy doesn't leave lane

Secret Butt FunMay 4, 20161 votes

I play a lot of Evelynn and even I am unaware that she can solo dragon. When the fuck did this happen?

BeldairMay 4, 20161 votes

Shhhh....it has been a secret long guarded for many years now.

MyrkrvaldyrMay 4, 20161 votes

As a jungler main, fuck that shit. I've had to explicitly say ''STAY IN LANE, I CAN SOLO DRAGON, NOBODY COME, DON'T LURE THEM HERE''. But sometimes, some dumass comes, usually the supp believing they must supp me. asdasdasdasdad and then the enemy jungler or their mid laner comes and fucks it up.

TonyTonyMordecaiMay 4, 20161 votes

Sometimes I don't notice them doing dragon and then I hear "RAWR" and see the animation on my body and I'm like "oh. thanks man :D"

SaphixiaMay 4, 20161 votes

Or warwick. If warwick is soloing dragon, please dont come help, im perfectly fine

Thanks, A (technical) Warwick Main

alfavhunterMay 4, 20161 votes

If I'm playing someone like Janna I will usually run up their shield him and return to lane if my adc can be trusted with 5 seconds of alone time

Why?

It helps and they only think I'm leaving to ward because I come back so quickly

Beast BrawlerMay 5, 20161 votes

Kha'Zix can solo drag at level six with evolved Q. But yeah, it's a pain when you tell the adc/support or midlaner not to come and they come, and then you have to fight the enemy team for a drag. I also end up losing drag when that happens.

Laskko May 5, 20161 votes

This has cost me so many dragons and not just with those champs. If a jungler doesn't ask for help then you shouldn't make it obvious what he's doing.

I feel you man.