Riot should NOT improve AP itemization (yet)

chipndip1··1 votes·378 views

Season 8's gonna ssssstrrrreeeetttttch the value gained by ap itemization by a crap ton.

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FacerollKatarina2 votes

No ones saying buff it, they're saying give more options so everyone isnt building the same items every game

chipndip11 votes

I didn't say "never improve it". I said don't improve it yet. Gotta see how those new runes land before tossing in item changes.

RuFiot1 votes

All this forum is infested with mid ap loving mains, enjoy getting down voted to oblivion

chipndip12 votes

The boards have, like, multiple hive minds that gel together.

The jugger-boner, the mage-boner, the "Don't ever rework anything" boner, the Yasuo-hate-boner, the marksman-hate-boner...there's a few, but they're consistent and decently easy to recognize.

Mens Hair Club2 votes

to be fair the juggerboner is only a small handful of us who circlejerk really hard and like half of them are really just mord players

we're probably the smallest hive but we are gaining momentum with adc hate getting more popular

Ahristocats1 votes

yeah make every ap champions building morello void staff liandry rabadon in every game

i'm sure they love that game

chipndip11 votes

Keyword: YET

Let those runes land, first, man. I was doing some mental number crunching on the type of power you could get in season 8, and it's pretty ridiculous.

For example.

Sona : item 3504 item 3174 item 2302 item 3040 item 3222 item 3165

Assuming we're level 18 at somewhere in between 40 and 50 minutes

Ardent = 60 ap

Athene's = 30 + passive (50) = 80 ap

Seraph's = 80 + passive (2506 x .03) = 155 ap

Morello = 100 ap

Overcharger = 40 ap (20 per 10% cdr over cap. We're at 65%)

Gathering Storm = 80 ap @ 40 minutes

Total ap by 40 minutes = 515

And that's with 2 ap support items and one item that doesn't even give ap, period.

Like, with Overcharger, Morello becomes a better stat stick item than even Luden's due to the potential bonus ap you can get from 20% cdr on top of 100 ap. Put these types of things in one at a time.

Ahristocats1 votes

hahaha

i wish i could get this build as sona in a game

chipndip11 votes

Coin makes it so much more possible.

Not saying you're gonna full build every game, obviously, but that'd be the target. Also, Sona players don't (or shouldn't) build boots anymore, so I'm LITERALLY saying build this...no boots.

Whenever I see juggernauts, I build Rylai's and spam Q, so you could replace Crucible with Rylai's for 570.

Ahristocats1 votes

games have an average of 24 min duration in master+ don't tell me coin makes it possible yeah some games i will have this, but how much compared to all games i do?

games end too fast, coin or not you won't have this

chipndip11 votes

Where are we getting this statistic from? From your own op.gg, I'm seeing stomps, but I'm also seeing games get around 30 minutes. Definitely shorter than the average for lower tiers, and it's not like we're bleeding into 40+ minute games on a regular, but you'll still have a moderately built Sona with a 30+ minute game.

Also, I'm not insinuating this will happen all the time...or even a lot. I'm just pointing out potential.

Ahristocats1 votes

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Where are we getting this statistic from?

leagueofgraph

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From your own op.gg, I'm seeing stomps, but I'm also seeing games get around 30 minutes.

and you think you can get the build above with sona with 30 min games? lul

chipndip11 votes

I just said you couldn't get that build in 30. xD

It's the target, not the expectation.

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