Is it time to admit Jhin needs a remake?

Mega Annie X·Oct 25, 2018·4 votes·1,010 views

He simply cannot exist in the current rune concept. Everything Jhin was originally designed to be BAD at has become a keyu strength to his kit.

Before, his autos had a static pace to them. He could not fire off shots faster than X time period. Now Hail of Blades makes it every got damn five seconds. Crit on first hit? 700 movespeed, hit last hit before the burst ends? Why because of hail of blades. Now he is permahaste.

This champion has always been problematic but I don't like the fact all of his key weaknesses no longer exist because "there is a rune for that."

9 Comments

Warlord RhinarkOct 25, 20183 votes

Or, we could just remake (or, rather revert) the runes instead since they seem to be the root of the problem.

ÆtheistOct 25, 20182 votes

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Or, we could just remake (or, rather revert) the runes instead since they seem to be the root of the problem.

JUST FUCKING REVERT EVERYTHING.

EVERY FUCKING CHAMPION REWORK, ALL THE RUNES, I'M FUCKING SICK OF THE WORD REVERT.

SICK OF THIS SACK OF SHIT COMPANY BEING SO COMICALLY INEPT THAT EVERY FUCKING THING THEY'VE EVER REMADE, EVERYONE WANTS IT REVERTED.

Warlord RhinarkOct 25, 20181 votes

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JUST FUCKING REVERT EVERYTHING.

EVERY FUCKING CHAMPION REWORK, ALL THE RUNES, I'M FUCKING SICK OF THE WORD REVERT.

SICK OF THIS SACK OF SHIT COMPANY BEING SO COMICALLY INEPT THAT EVERY FUCKING THING THEY'VE EVER REMADE, EVERYONE WANTS IT REVERTED.

I agree, but you don't have to yell.

Calm down fam.

ÆtheistOct 25, 20181 votes

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I agree, but you don't have to yell.

Calm down fam.

I'm just sick of the negativity. Personally I think that, for the most part, the runes are being brought more in line with the old system. There's still a few outlying issues, but it's not the train wreck it was at the start at least.

Reverting everything to the old runes and masteries would also require a bunch of base stat (re)overhauls again, not to mention the annoyance of being harder to manage entirely in champion select due to needing two separate menus for them.

I think the shard thing that's basically a condensed version of the old runes is pretty close to a revert in spirit anyway. Just maybe need the rune trees to be ironed out a bit.

Overall, reverting it would be a bigger headache than fine-tuning the new ones, and probably wouldn't change who's strong and who isn't much.

ParoeOct 25, 20181 votes

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JUST FUCKING REVERT EVERYTHING.

EVERY FUCKING CHAMPION REWORK, ALL THE RUNES, I'M FUCKING SICK OF THE WORD REVERT.

SICK OF THIS SACK OF SHIT COMPANY BEING SO COMICALLY INEPT THAT EVERY FUCKING THING THEY'VE EVER REMADE, EVERYONE WANTS IT REVERTED.

Sion, Poppy, and Warwick were good changes.

I think the real problem is that many champions - such as shen, swain, and malzahar - are victims of riots "change for the sake of change" policy. Because creating problems allows you to pretend to work on them in order to do as little actual work as possible.

saltranOct 25, 20182 votes

I dislike Jhin but honestly he's far from needing a remake.

ParoeOct 25, 20181 votes

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I dislike Jhin but honestly he's far from needing a remake.

He does need a MAJOR nerf, though. Make attack speed function like graves and flat remove his passive AD scaling. Storm razor basically solves ALL of his problems, much like other marksmen but to a greater degree.