His damage is literally the easiest thing to apply in the world. His cooldowns are non-existant. Stormraider is completely broken on him.
His scaling is crazy. He doesn't deserve a shield in his kit. He is one of the most oppressive mages in the game. Swain is easier to kill then him but he does 3x more damage.
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Adriqnohee3 votesThe speed buff should be enough specially because his build tends to be on the more defensive side of things.
TequilaZombie24 votesA speed buff is not enough when you need to be in the frontliner's range to deal damage to them. The trade off for range is usually survivability, either in the form of blinks/dashes, invulnerability or tankyeness. So unless Ryze is getting some form of blink or dodge, I highly doubt that removing his shield would be a good idea.
PhoenixOfHeaven8 votesBased on the way he wrote it, he's probably just upset cause he couldn't kill one in a previous match. Ryze is in an ok spot. Probably his best in a decent while. He remains rather simple to play, and is still fun and counter able. Yeah he has a shield, but he's also a mage with a non-damage ult. That's huge.
Mega Annie X1 votesguess who else doesnt have a damage ult but has been a key pick or ban in the first 5 seasons of League? TF. STFU k thanx
PB4UAME2 votesRyze ult provides much less utility than a global reveal, nevermind Gate itself which is a better (albiet single target) form of Ryze's ult anyway. Apples meet oranges.
Mega Annie X3 votesI didn't know gate could be used to move your entire team OR be used without a self stun. Way less "utility"
Requiemsfire3 votesGates is a waaay better spell.. it reveals every champion on the map regardless of whether or not they are invisible and gives him a teleport to any location within a semi-global range where his location isn't telegraphed unlike Ryze. Ryze's realm warp's location is extremely telegraphed giving the opponent a lot of time to react to it before it actually happens which actually gets them killed a lot of the time.
Dabluechimp5 votes[{quoted}](name=bbQ s,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WQjcXz5h,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-12-28T17:44:14.216+0000)
he does need a shield though, he's low ranged compared to other mages, so he needs a form of self defense.
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King of Demons4 votes
Anivia and Aurelion both have crowd control and different ways of keeping you where they want you to be. Karthus is the only exception to that but that is because his passive allows him to continue casting and using spells + you probably don't want to hug him for too long anyway.
Ryze only has a 1 second CC that can be increased to 2 seconds if he wants to lose some DPS in favor of surviving better.
But do you know the difference? Snares are soft cc. They do not hinder your ability to deal damage yourself, unless your spell is based on movement. His low range also means that anybody that isn't a melee champ (and even they have spells they can use) can retaliate. If you get stunned by Anivia you'll lose 80% of your HP unless you're a tank. If you get stunned by Aurelion, you're gonna die. If Ryze snares you, you can fight back. He needs a second or third rotation to get a kill, other mages kill in one.
TheHappyLad25 votesYup Ryze is totally easy to play and is effective at elos below masters. /sarcasm
Sozan510 votesUh, if you actually looked at data you provided you'd realize that he's totally bonkers.
His Playerbase Average Games Played is 21 on mid and 31 on top - that means he has a lot of newbie players that obviously are not that effective with him (they probably try him out and get discouraged, because he does take some skill).
Then, you look at the people that actually play him a lot (over 50 games):
Mid 50 games+: 52% winrate 125 games+: 61% winrate
Top 50 games+: 58% winrate 125 games+: 76% winrate
I do realize that those are still kinda inflated, but that's a VERY impressive winrate regardless.
TequilaZombie11 votesLet's be fair, a 2% playrate with only 2% of the previous 2% being over 125 games means that this is going to be based on an EXTREMELY small sample size. It is not kinda inflated, it is VERY inflated. Specially because we're taking into consideration only plat+, which is about the top 5% of the playerbase.
Sozan55 votesWell, compare it to similar playrate champs and Ryze is still looking very strong. As far as Plat+ goes, I believe this is about the spot where Rito should focus on balance, so that's okay.
The other one that's very worrying is Ivern actually.
Players with 125+ games Ivern have 99,47% winrate. If it was 100% winrate, that'd be no problem (low sample size, every game won), but since it's 99,47% that means Ivern players with over 125 games have at least 187 wins and 1 lose (possibly more in the same ratio W:L). The rest of his stats are also mind-boggling (53% average winrate with 12 games played on average)
TequilaZombie6 votesWait what? This Ivern winrate makes me think that there might be some problems with champion.gg algorithm, or, at the very least, an error when reading data.
A 99.47% winrate indicates that not only they have 187:1 winratio, but that they are immune to enemies snowballs, feeders, disconections or any other things that are out of their control. Which is very unlikely.
Sozan53 votesI know it was 100% some time ago (and that's when I discarded it as just small sample size), so it kinda hints that it works?
Dunno, but I also think it's very unlikely.
RocketRelm3 votesMy guess is that it is 100%, but that the champion gg algorithm cannot produce a 100% number (for whatever reason). So it instead gives the highest possible number within whatever system set it has. A limitation that normally is irrelevant.
I may be wrong, I don't have a clue and am making a guess.
dominusx18 votesCan we all agree that ryze doesnt deserve to see play unless riot realises that his champion concept cannot be translated into a healthy mechanic for the game itself? NO Ryze rework over the years has been balance. and the current one right now supposedly has more counterplay they simply reduced his perma cc combo and gave him more accesible waveclear so he can permashove waves under your tower and in case he catches you he buttblasts you in 1.2 seconds and run away with 600mov speed.
Mega Annie X3 votesyeah i hate how easy it is for ryze to activate stormraider
Penns2 votesIt would be if they removed his point and click free full combo free kill snare in one of his 10 reworks imo lol.
MunchCrunchLunch11 voteshe just needs to not nuke you when he has a 
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Cowseed2 votesBut he scales off mana so I'm not too sure about this.
Not xPeke3 votesthen reduce how much he scales off mana in the early lvls, and gradually increase the scaling to the point it is now the higher level he gets. For a champion who is meant to scale super well, he truly does deal alot of damage right off the bat.
Remove Jungle6 votesryze is weak right now he needs some buffs
dominusx14 votesRyze is weak maybe in the hands of a bronze or silver. Even a gold can maximize his potential currently
Velzard of Koz6 votesHe either needs more sustained damage instead of burst or a shield. He is/should be a battle mage. He shouldn't be bursting as fast as he is bursting now and then he would be absolute battle mage and the shield would be fitting his role as he has relatively short range already.
Ironically, LeBlanc's Passive within Ryze's E might be something fitting him more. Let's say he throws orb at target, deals slight damage and after short delay, so that he is forced to stay in battle for like 1 second or 1.5 seconds or 2 seconds to fit battle mage, he can harvest it with Q, W or E for the bonus effect. Should he harvest it this way, the orb would bounce to him and either heal him a little or shield him.
Melledoneus6 votesBy your logic, the following champions do not deserve their abilities as well:
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Q shield
Armor and MR on E
Passive shield
E
Yellow card
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Q shield
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W
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Thank you for showing us that we need to invalidate a lot of champions in the game. I appreciate your feedback. If you have any more suggestions, go to C:/RecycleBin.
Marshbouy5 votesTBH this is probably true. When you get an WEQ on someone and pop you get a shield that's around 1k.
snake patroller4 votestbh honest, idc abut the shield, i care about the point & click root. :(
DarkPh0enix3 votes-5 AD for Ryze
50000000000000003 votesHe plays like an ADC in that he has a short range. He has a shield, because he doesn't have lifesteal.
AS I LAY FEEDING3 votesYou should know that popping the shield is a huge dmg loss? And as a previous ryze player you meet a lot of annie's mid. His laning phase pre 6 is would be so thrash and he would be such a easy kill if it wasnt for the shield.
For example when i played last season i was facing Annie all the time. Most Annie players are unskilled and have tunnel vision. If it wasnt for the shield i would have lost against Annie. Only thing you can do versus a Annie lvl 6 and also Syndra is Q>E>W>Q or the lane becomes a feeding lane. I wonder how many times i survived with only 100 hp of the mages burst.
And you are talking about Swain. Swain can be compared to a Tank. If there is 2 or more tanks on the enemy team it's a easy win because the tanks stacks and for a ryze player its so easy to apply spell flux to the whole enemy team and that's gg. You cant have a swain against a ryze because he lacks mobility and most tanks walks into Ryze's skillshots GG.
The reason you are complaining is that you don't do you're job as a support or facing a ryze toplane as a melee.
The problem i see is that he have 340 movement speed and for example i play a lot of Talon recently and he have 335 something. Even though they nerf Ryze speed on Q it wont matter because he allready have a lot. I used to buy Echo last item, pretty much can outrun everyone xd.
Sagan Forever3 votesThat would make ryze unplayable; plain and simple.
Mystic Shovel3 votesNo, we can't all agree. These things are made for a reason (Yasuo windwall+passive, Ryze shield + ms when overloading, Vayne max hp true damage, Rivens mobility, the list goes on). Once you start taking away parts of a champion, you actually make it harder to balance them and remove what makes them unique. Ryze is balanced with his shield + ms in mind, you take that away and you have to buff him in other areas (which, speaking as a Ryze main, you really don't want :P). Perhaps his numbers could be tuned sure, but thats all he needs. He is a very high skill-cap champion and it takes hours of practice for the Ryze player to get to the point where he becomes difficult to deal with for the enemy team, but thats the reward for spending hours learning him and taking the risk every game that you could easily fuck something up by just missing a Q (not something a champion, say, Kayle has. ((who is arguably stupid broken))).
I'm not saying Ryze should be OP when you've played 200 games with him, all things have to come with a balance cap, but thankfully thats what Rito has done. He becomes a problem late game because he scales with mana and can easily get over 1000 ap. He has no CD's because anyone sensible playing Ryze will take scaling CDR runes (and runes need a big overhaul anyway) and build 30% CDR very early (Ionian boots + Morello. He also has his resets which are staple for a combo-based champion). CDR is an overly accessible stat also, but we all know Items are a difficult thing to deal with for Riot. Early game however, the only thing he has is his root (which is a staple in Ryzes kit, he literally wouldn't work without it) and his shield+ms. He needs these things to survive, otherwise he wouldn't be a fun champ to play, and you end up with yet another dead champion.
If you're struggling to deal with Ryze, don't get mad because he ran away with 100 health. Instead, improve yourself, play him like, 10 games and you'll see his glaring weaknesses. Game knowledge > Everything.
Mystic Shovel1 votesAlso the smart Ryze player will take Thunderlords, not Stormraiders. If you went against a Ryze that took storm, you were either against a bad Ryze, or an extremely cocky Ryze.
Not xPeke1 votesYeah I guess Faker and every other pro player, and probably 80% of the worldwide Ryze players out there are all stupid and bad players. /S
Mystic Shovel1 votesand yet thunderlords has the better winrate in the same role that Swain plays, which is what the OP compared him too.
Not xPeke2 votesIt's got a better winrate because there's way less players using thunderlords than stormraider's, most likely.
Stormraider's is just better, no discussion. Thunderlord isn't bad, I'm not trying to say that. But stormraider's brings much more to the table for the Ryze player. Maybe thunderlord is better in low elo. But the higher you get, and the better you get on Ryze, you get much more out of Stormraider's.
Requiemsfire1 votesJust saying but you're better off building abyssal scepter over Morello in most cases.
SteelMankind3 votesRyze is a battle mage, meaning he has short range sustained damage. All battle mages NEED to have a defensive aspect of their kit to keep them alive; otherwise there would be no reason to pick them over Lux/Vel'Koz who can burst harder from a much longer distance.
Umbra Ionia1 votesYeah, because DPS mages are balanced. 
. Riot need to differentiate between DPS and burst, because these 2 can 100-0 you in less than 4 seconds.
SteelMankind1 votesSounds like DPS to me
Umbra Ionia1 votesThe problem is, you should can escape from that DPS dealer, but with Ryze W and Cassio W you can´t run.
Ad Vitam Aeterna2 votesI agree, I think he's like Yas and Camille, just getting so much more than he needs in his kit. Even without the shield a good ryze would still rape with that damage and stickiness. When i finally feel like I have the chance to punish Ryze he gets the shield to pop off and he just chases you down with ease. It's hard to wait for him to blow his shield because he'll just keep it down until he's ready for you.
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I agree, I think he's like Yas and Camille, just getting so much more than he needs in his kit. Even without the shield a good ryze would still rape with that damage and stickiness. When i finally feel like I have the chance to punish Ryze he gets the shield to pop off and he just chases you down with ease. It's hard to wait for him to blow his shield because he'll just keep it down until he's ready for you.
i don't agree ryze does not stick. and if you where out of position well that is your own mistake.
Ad Vitam Aeterna2 votesRyze's go with stormraiders surge, which gives them insane stickiness. Combo, outrun the enemy, combo. Easy with his low cd's.
Mega Annie X2 votesdid you just say ryze can't stick to an enemy? With his point and click kit? and stormraider?
Dragonborn7392 votesDo I smell another Ryze rework?
h5LYF41Lam2 votesall of his damage comes from his q,his q can be blocked by tanks and his e spread range is pretty low..... its dificult for him to reach carries in team fights and all of his damage can be blocked by literaly a tank standing in front of him
WhyBanMyLeeSin2 votesConsidering his winrate and the fact his burst has a very short range, HE DOES NEED A SHEILD.