"Tanks win 1v1, they are OP"

xJLx MCHammer··3 votes·1,508 views

Meanwhile, when you ask what tank beat them and they start giving you champions that aren't even tanks...

Illaoi DrMundo Olaf Darius ChogathGnar

News flash! They are not tanks.

Tanks are champions like Maokai Rammus Sion Volibear

You shouldn't be losing to a tank in a 1v1 fight.

14 Comments

MagicFlyingLlama4 votes

1v1 with Maokai? Only one way this can end unless you are someone like Vayne or Yi.

Also DrMundo is very definitely a tank, so is cho.. the others not as much, but they function as one in the current meta.

Ok sure but why1 votes

Even then he can just rush a item 3076 and W his way through your cc

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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1v1 with Maokai? Only one way this can end unless you are someone like Vayne or Yi.

Also DrMundo is very definitely a tank, so is cho.. the others not as much, but they function as one in the current meta.

how is DrMundo a tank? he has no CC outside of the slow on his Q... he builds tanky but he is not a tank in the slightest. Chogath isn't even classified as a tank but more as it's own unique playstyle and even if he were to fall into something he would fall more in the lines of a Juggernaut more than anything

Just because someone builds tanky does not mean that they are a tank

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

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1v1 with Maokai? Only one way this can end unless you are someone like Vayne or Yi.

Also DrMundo is very definitely a tank, so is cho.. the others not as much, but they function as one in the current meta.

No, Mundo is not a tank. He is a bruiser in every way possible. He has nothing in his kit that screams tank.

Also, go use a Mao in a 1v1 lane vs any real bruiser like Shyvana Yorick Camille Fiora Illaoi Riot has added so much %dmg in the game in almost every kit whether it's a tank or not that the saying "wet noddle fight" is no longer true. Now, the champions will kill each other. Mao will eventually lose to majority of the bruisers

Ok sure but why2 votes

Maybe it's not the tanks that are the problem, but the fact that anyone that builds tanks will always 1v1 someone that builds glass cannon, since Riot allows base damage to be so high and makes scaling almost not matter

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

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Maybe it's not the tanks that are the problem, but the fact that anyone that builds tanks will always 1v1 someone that builds glass cannon, since Riot allows base damage to be so high and makes scaling almost not matter

But that's not true

Try fighting a Yasuo as a tank. By the end game, they kill you

The way the game is designed, dmg>tankiness but the end of a game.

Tahminatrix 2 votes

If glass cannon > tank then something is wrong with balance, glass cannon means you kill someone faster and move onto the next, tank means you are doing everything in your power to win the fight but goodluck taking objectives unless you have runes just for that.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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If glass cannon > tank then something is wrong with balance, glass cannon means you kill someone faster and move onto the next, tank means you are doing everything in your power to win the fight but goodluck taking objectives unless you have runes just for that.

if that were the case then you wouldn't need damage dealers in the game and just have a 5 man tank/bruiser fest in every single game with nobody ever building pure damage

Tahminatrix 1 votes

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if that were the case then you wouldn't need damage dealers in the game and just have a 5 man tank/bruiser fest in every single game with nobody ever building pure damage

I was talking about dueling?

No, the reason why the game isnt a 5 man tank/bruiser fest is due to the tanks/bruisers themselves having cc along with other champions who buy the glass cannons time to kill others.

This is why tanks cant have mobility or need very limited mobility/telegraphed with high cooldowns...this is why Zac is a good champion, he would be much weaker if he couldnt slingshot himself around.

Tanks arn`t afraid of cc unless that cc is paired with a damage threat "glass cannons"

Just as tanks arnt afraid of glass cannons unless they are paired with cc and peal.

Erockandroll1 votes

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If glass cannon > tank then something is wrong with balance, glass cannon means you kill someone faster and move onto the next, tank means you are doing everything in your power to win the fight but goodluck taking objectives unless you have runes just for that.

While I agree in principal, in the sense that glass cannons trade off dueling for objective taking power. The line has blurred a bit, as Tanks now have more options for dealing damage to objectives. (including a new rune, along with items such a portal)

Tahminatrix 1 votes

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While I agree in principal, in the sense that glass cannons trade off dueling for objective taking power. The line has blurred a bit, as Tanks now have more options for dealing damage to objectives. (including a new rune, along with items such a portal)

and Nasus

420 grams2 votes

Ornn

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

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Ornn

Not since his last nerf. He was overtuned with high dmg from his W. They will tune that down a bit and he will never win those 1v1 anymore. In fact, even now, he has a really really hard time. His winrate is below48%

Tahminatrix 1 votes

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Not since his last nerf. He was overtuned with high dmg from his W. They will tune that down a bit and he will never win those 1v1 anymore. In fact, even now, he has a really really hard time. His winrate is below48%

Riot said TahmKench is doing really well with a 48% winrate so ornn isnt that far behind from doing really well, maybe a .001 heath regen buff will put him where he needs to be.

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