Warwick Q heal buff next patch is a mistake (OTP WW)

DeadUnborn·5/29/2019, 6:26:14 PM·52 votes·16,091 views

SO I saw Riot wants WW win rate to increase late by aiding his suitability without decreasing time to kill for him. Ok, good, but not really.

You know what affects WWs mid/late game? His W being bugged out when switching targets, In early game is no matter because you can press it yourself when you are ganking. However in mid/late game sometimes it will not give you the bonus speed under varios circumstances (you were already walking in the direction the new target appeared for example)

BEfore buffing/nerfing WW, his W should be cleaned/fixed (also E second cast cancels your autos, seems like a bug). Then you can adjust his kit. You want me to tell you why I know it will work? when you fixed Rek Sai's ult (what you though was a QoL change) was actually a giant buff that increased her play rate by a lot, even after you adjusted her numbers

42 Comments

aezens5/29/2019, 9:19:31 PM11 votes

Apparently fixing bugs isn´t really one of riots core strenghts. Beside the thng you have mentioned there are far more bugs. For example the passive doesn´t update after respawn or the body blocking bug. Hell they can´t even update his Blood Hunt passive text. It still says "below 20% hp attackspeed bonus is tripled" which is wrong.

Anyway there is a huge buglist with videos and descriptions on reddit already. The only thing I´d like to see buffed is his abysmal base hp. He does have even less hp at lv 18 than most of the adc´s. Just .. seriously?

Haze975/29/2019, 7:49:48 PM5 votes

He doesn't even NEED a Q hall buff. He already clears every camp with more than 2/3rd HP remaining, can outduel anyone at level 3, and still synergizes incredibly well with item 3065 and item 3812 .

Fucking braindead buff which doesn't bother addressing the issue.

Sir Inugami5/30/2019, 4:14:45 AM2 votes

Warwick's issues aren't his healing, aren't his damage or his healing potential.

It's his incredible amount of breaking bugs. Such as his ult being interrupted mid-dash by any teleport or dash ability casted near him (including Flash)

Saezio5/29/2019, 7:03:23 PM2 votes

I like your post and upvoted. You make totally reasonable points and in my opinion only a moron would disagree.

The only thing I want to point out is that reksai's wasn't really a QoL change because they changed it from being able to legit outrun the ability, to "you need 1000 units of instantaneous movement" to dodge it.

Great job other than that :)

Sodeb Lacudomite5/30/2019, 8:25:32 AM2 votes

Hey guys, 1 Million mastery + WW main, and Platinum rank on multiple server since season 4 here. As an pre-rework and after-rework ww main, I always maxed q first, and build bloodrazor, titanic, wit's end (on-hit stuff).

New ww still has on-hit proc on his q, and 3 times on his R. And to me, on-hit has always defined ww.

I LOVED the old ww MS boost, which was NOT out-of-combat only. It allowed him to go in-and-out of fight, and you felt like an actual wolf, weakening his pray... The new w is LAME (does not feel like a wolf) and BUGGED AS FCK. So I don't want to max w. Even if the AS passive is cool.

The new E is cool.

I agree with the OP, buffing the Q heal is ... well it's nice, 90% is actually just a REVERT OF A PREVIOUS NERF, since old ww was already healing 90%.

However, the problem is his insanely low damage on Q. It used to be, at max rank, 16% max health (pre-rework), then 10% max health after rework, and then nerfed to 8%. 8% is an actual joke. Compare to ANY champion with % max health dmg, you'll find other champ with bigger values, AOE, ranged, lower CD, etc.

They even said it in the patch, they want players "to still max W first". Riot don't want you to have a choice, they want you to max W, so they make Q ultra shitty. Yet they still can't fix the countless W bug.

TD;LR buff the damage of Q, nerf W if needed, but FIX ITS BUG.

Please, at least, fix the ww death loud sound bug.

WW is so fcked right now (and jungle in general too) that I stopped playing him until they fix him.

LordGeovanni5/30/2019, 1:56:12 AM1 votes

His w is broken as fuk against anyone who doesnt deal burst and consistently aka fighters and tanks all so that adcs feel good that they didnt get point and click ulted while they point and click crit you from 400+ range. Warwick becomes almost unbeatable to all melee and sub melee's once he gets you to half hp and most fighters are expected to take 80% their hp in the first second of battle and fight it out with less than 40% hp

SirPurrr5/30/2019, 6:57:55 AM1 votes

I think WW needs help in higher tier play even if he does get appropriate bugfixes. I like this change because it's fairly neutral to what builds he goes. It doesn't overly favor any.

Taliban Zilean5/31/2019, 11:50:46 AM1 votes

Rek sai is still dead, the kit has no dmg output, the stats per lvl are low for a tank, and the ult is useless untill late game, which hardly happens when u play rek sai. Its half a champion compared to new ones which have spell kits of two champions in one.

Hayaishi25/29/2019, 6:33:41 PM1 votes

Riot said Blood Hunt is still likely the best first max... i thought people maxed Q first.

Klice12/28/2019, 8:46:04 PM1 votes

This guy was right. This Aged Well

Jeanne fan club5/29/2019, 8:27:15 PM1 votes

why is riot trying to turn every champion into an infinidash draintank?

Irelia Riven Renekton Aatrox Hecarim Vladimir Urgot Yasuo some of these can 1 cycle burst you without counterplay as it is, why do they get to be tankier than tanks, while doing damage on par with assassins? I mean sure ww isn't that big of an offender but his entire kit is centered around drain tank bs that shouldn't be available on every single bruiser lol.

Cevrad5/29/2019, 9:34:07 PM1 votes

Nah, this buff changes nothing, still a trash tier champion.

14daysuspensionk5/30/2019, 12:12:37 AM1 votes

Honestly they should be working on fixing major AND common bugs with champions that they don't have anything planned for like a big rework. I know this might have more to do with the map rather than being a bug but still, Nidalees spears go through targets so fucking often it's unbeleivable, I main her so you know that I play her often and am getting kinda sick of this spear problem, (have 450K on her, been maining her for a bit more than a year now).

Velasan5/30/2019, 12:16:58 AM1 votes

Technically you can Q max, but it's a different build. You can go high damage Q + R set up with Warrior Enchant, but you need to be consciously doing it. If you just build like the basic cinderhulk titanic you won't have enough CDR or AD to make it work.