People who should be nerfed long before Yasuo is even touched

Bultz·May 19, 2017·3 votes·748 views

Veigar, Jinx, Darius, Fioara, illoai, fizz, draven, Master Yi, galio, ashe, Akali, Ahri, etc. fkign etc.

Yet Riot fucking feels the need to fuck Yasuo mains further.

26 Comments

PermabannedGarenMay 19, 201712 votes

{quoted}

Veigar

I'm gonna be honest with you dude, one Yasuo main to another, I stopped reading after this. Veigar does not need a single nerf right now, and you should feel bad for suggesting this.

JoxcabMay 19, 20172 votes

"PermabannedGaren" Not a Garen main. My life is a lie.

PermabannedGarenMay 19, 20172 votes

{quoted}

"PermabannedGaren" Not a Garen main. My life is a lie.

I've semi-shelved him not merely due to him being hot garbage, but because I can barely stand to play him as I've come to realize how lazy and awful his rework was. If he gets the rework he needs I'll pick him up again.

AhristocatsMay 19, 20171 votes

~~say thanks to repertoir~~

TyrekGoldenspearMay 19, 20171 votes

Ikr?

BultzMay 19, 20171 votes

{quoted}

I'm gonna be honest with you dude, one Yasuo main to another, I stopped reading after this. Veigar does not need a single nerf right now, and you should feel bad for suggesting this.

You have no game or mastery points on a single champion...

JoxcabMay 19, 20176 votes

You're bad. Stop crying.

AgentBlackMay 19, 20173 votes

Wait what? Like what even is the reasoning for that list?

Kirius DarkMay 19, 20175 votes

{quoted}

Wait what? Like what even is the reasoning for that list?

OP probably butthurt from losing to them by playing yasuo poorly

BultzMay 19, 20171 votes

{quoted}

Wait what? Like what even is the reasoning for that list?

They are all busted. Veigar hitting 1600's on squishies 20 minutes into the game, jinx insta melting anyone with a kit able to fight back against any counters. Darius Tanking entire teams while doing enormous damage, I've seen 1500 off of his ult... etc etc.

SEKAIMay 19, 20171 votes

{quoted}

They are all busted. Veigar hitting 1600's on squishies 20 minutes into the game, jinx insta melting anyone with a kit able to fight back against any counters. Darius Tanking entire teams while doing enormous damage, I've seen 1500 off of his ult... etc etc.

When you start claiming exaggerations as facts, you've lost the credit of your argument.

BultzMay 19, 20171 votes

{quoted}

When you start claiming exaggerations as facts, you've lost the credit of your argument.

I've seen that all happen so what the fuck am i exaggerating ?

SEKAIMay 19, 20172 votes

{quoted}

I've seen that all happen so what the fuck am i exaggerating ?

Even with 500 bonus AD at ulti lvl 3, it will do 1350 damage and not 1500.

The highest AD from items is 80, meaning it's impossible to get 500 AD as the max you can get is 80*6=480.

Darius also will not buy full AD, and if he does, he won't be "Tanking entire teams" with his base lvl 18 HP capped at 2282, AR at 98 and Mr at 53.4 which is astonishingly easy to melt these days.

So your "I've seen that all happen" is literally impossible.

EDIT: (though this is calculated on the premise that full stack does not simply double the base damage as indicated by the tool tip, as the scaling section indicates otherwise. Lolwiki is rather unclear on how the calculation is meant to be made)

EndlessSorcererMay 19, 20171 votes

While I'm not supporting the OP, you seem to have forgotten Fervor of Battle and Darius' passive both provide a significant amount of AD.

At level 18, they would provide ~264 bonus AD combined while Natural Talent and Runes would generally provide another ~20 AD.

SEKAIMay 19, 20171 votes

{quoted}

While I'm not supporting the OP, you seem to have forgotten Fervor of Battle and Darius' passive both provide a significant amount of AD.

At level 18, they would provide ~264 bonus AD combined while Natural Talent and Runes would generally provide another ~20 AD.

Darius's passive only provides AD after he'd killed something with ulti tho, and since it's only 5 seconds it's there only to allow Darius to chain-kill with R spam. That can be a problem on Darius as his passive also allows him to apply full stacks during chain-kill mode, sure, but his ulti's damage on first-cast isn't that big of a problem tbh.

It's annoying and downright stupid sometimes, yes, but I think it's not mathematically broken I wouldn't think.

But what do I know. Maybe Darius does do too much damage (or maybe only on chain-cast).

EndlessSorcererMay 19, 20171 votes

I think you are misunderstanding how Darius' passive works.

Darius's passive only provides AD after he'd killed something with ulti tho

It provides bonus AD if you manage to apply 5 stacks of your passive to an enemy champion OR if you kill them with your ultimate.

since it's only 5 seconds it's there only to allow Darius to chain-kill with R spam

It lasts for 5 seconds after you apply 5 stacks of Hemorrhage to an enemy champion.

Landing a damaging ability or autoattack applies 5 stacks of Hemorrhage while Noxian Might is active. AFAIK, this means that he can refresh Noxian Might by hitting a new champion.

Feel free to test this in a custom game or using the practice tool.

Who is TaliyahMay 19, 20172 votes

{quoted}

They are all busted. Veigar hitting 1600's on squishies 20 minutes into the game,

Meanwhile Yasou crits everyone with a 100% critchance with 2 items and blocks every projectile with his windwall which duration is way too long. Not to forget his insame mobility that makes it extremely easy for him to dodge any skillshot.

BultzMay 19, 20171 votes

{quoted}

Meanwhile Yasou crits everyone with a 100% critchance with 2 items and blocks every projectile with his windwall which duration is way too long. Not to forget his insame mobility that makes it extremely easy for him to dodge any skillshot.

still does only 200 damage with 2 items, has the most counters in game, and any idiot can beat him.....

OtterlyLostMay 19, 20173 votes

{quoted}

Veigar, Jinx, Darius, Fioara, illoai, fizz, draven, Master Yi, galio, ashe, Akali, Ahri, etc. fkign etc.

Yet Riot fucking feels the need to fuck Yasuo mains further.

Veigar has a clearly defined weakness in that he's immobile and has a terrible laning phase. Jinx is the same; immobile and has an awful laning. Darius is kiteable; he's awful to play against in lane but struggles to carry on his own.

Fiora isn't played much at my elo but when she is she can be shut down with ganks and her pattern of attack is telegraphed as fuck. If you have an easy to reach vital as well, its very simple to walk back out of her range to reset it.

Illoai is like Darius; she's low mobility with very few dashes and CC. :/ She's extremely kiteable and if you're even half of an intelligent being, you can dodge 90% of her damage.

Fizz has a weak laning and long CDs early; they nerfed his tank variation so 9 times out of 10, he's really squishy. If you're warding properly and standing behind your tanks, you can dodge his fish and nullify a lot of his damage. Even if you're not warding, a lot of times its pretty obvious where he's tossing the fish from.

You really listed Draven? Draven, the ADC with the highest needed skill and mastery to pull off even remotely half decently? Draven who has wear he's going to be telegraphed near constantly by his own mechanic? Draven??? >_>;

Master Yi is only a problem if your entire team is stupid and didn't pick anyone to CC him. So basically if your top was yasuo, your mid was talon, your jungle was Kha'Zix, your support was Sona, and your ADC was literally any ADC.

Galio??? Why is Galio even here??? He does a lot of damage but its easy to dodge and I've never personally had trouble with him.

Ashe is low mobility and weak to camping in laning. :/ She doesn't do damage unless she's miles ahead of the other ADC.

Akali has no laning phase. She's literally just always waiting to get to six.

Ahri is skillshot reliant. If you dodge her skillshots you shouldn't be having issues. :/

What is this troll list? Yasuo is far worse than any of the champions you listed.

Shuyin178May 19, 20172 votes

Veigar is balanced, Jinx is behind other ADCs, Darius is a %%%%, Fiora is a %%%%, Illaoi has fallen behind other tops, Fizz is a %%%%, Draven is Draven (super %%%%), Master Yi is hit or miss, Galio is balanced now, Ashe is hit or miss, Akali is hit or miss, Ahri is hit or miss (she's just fun to play so she's popular), etc is bronze.

Yasuo already has a big nerf though on the PBE which should help balance him a bit more.

BultzMay 19, 20171 votes

{quoted}

Veigar is balanced, Jinx is behind other ADCs, Darius is a %%%%, Fiora is a %%%%, Illaoi has fallen behind other tops, Fizz is a %%%%, Draven is Draven (super %%%%), Master Yi is hit or miss, Galio is balanced now, Ashe is hit or miss, Akali is hit or miss, Ahri is hit or miss (she's just fun to play so she's popular), etc is bronze.

Veigar is far from balanced. I've seen him hit 1600 with one spell 20 minutes in afetr he lost lane, fuck that. Jinx is not behind, melts her appointment and can duel fighters which is bs. Illoai can 5v1 with insta kills with her bs ult and kit... damage is way to high. WIth the item changes master yi is broken and with his buff hard to counter. Ashe is a cancer. I have never once seen an Akali do bad. Not once.....Ahri has been at like a 54% winrate since her creation..............

Yasuo already has a big nerf though on the PBE which should help balance him a bit more.

Yasuo doesn't need it and is balanced.

Baby GhoulMay 19, 20172 votes

If I was ever looking to see how many downvotes I could get on a topic, this is what I would lead with.

Billy VoHagenMay 19, 20171 votes

Jinx

What?

Kirius DarkMay 19, 20171 votes

The non meta ADC never picked or banned at MSI.

NERF NAO!

IDK how that list of champs even came to be

BultzMay 19, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Level 18 Feeder,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l0Q9wcFN,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-05-19T03:17:56.237+0000)

The non meta ADC never picked or banned at MSI.

NERF NAO!

IDK how that list of champs even came to be

Because their all fucking busted. Pretend they aren't all you want veigar hitting 1600 20 minutes into a game with one spell isn't balanced.

BultzMay 19, 20171 votes