@Riot So Azir has been the lowest mid win rate in over 6 patches are we going to ignore it Riot?.

LegendmakerGX·Feb 21, 2017·1 votes·1,418 views

So are we going to acknowledge that you guys completely destroyed him all for the pro scene?

43% win rate and I'm not even sure if he can make it pass 45% win rate all because of how you nerf him and ruin him since it was obvious your balancing team were watching LCS/ EULCS to know what to even nerf.

I got 2 skin for him and I would had even bought the lunar and SKT skin too but you guys seriously FKED Azir up so badly that I wish I can demand my money back. The only way Azir even becomes useful now is by 30-40 min into the game unless he loses lane non stop from his weak damage.

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Handy Sandy Feb 21, 20171 votes

The only way Azir even becomes useful now is by 30-40 min into the game unless he loses lane non stop from his weak damage.

Well Azir IS a strong laner, he usually doesn't lose lane because of his waveclear, safety, and poke. But not kill pressure. He can easily become useful 20 minutes into the game if you cs accurately on him and get around 200 farm by then which isn't so hard. Also, you become way stronger at 20 minutes with the new penetration build.

lunar and SKT skin

Azir has a lunar skin?

HethaleanFeb 21, 20171 votes

I think he means Warring Kingdom.

Handy Sandy Feb 21, 20171 votes

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I think he means Warring Kingdom.

OHH I forgot that was also called lunar revel

Registeel1234Feb 22, 20171 votes

What's build are you talking about? I haven't heard of a new build for azir

Handy Sandy Feb 22, 20171 votes

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What's build are you talking about? I haven't heard of a new build for azir

A bunch of Azir mains are now using Lord Azir's max damage build. A lot don't go for nashor's anymore though, and go for morello's instead.

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/patch-7-2-l0rd-azirs-max-damage-azir-guide-473380

MissingKayoFeb 21, 20171 votes

There's a good reason for that. Whenever he's even the tiniest bit okay in numbers, he is completely broken and oppressive to play against. Korean Master/Challenger mains still have over 80% winrate on him even in his current state.

LostFr0stFeb 21, 20171 votes

It's not like they've stayed silent about it. He's waiting for his turn to get tweaks. Rek'sai and Aatrox are getting their turns now. In Azir's current state there's just no room for more buffs:

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Nothing currently planned. Azir's always been particularly problematic in pro play and we're seeing him get fringe play there right now which means we don't have any room to buff him at present.

YerALizardHarryFeb 21, 20171 votes

wtf Reksai's getting a tweak again? As in nerf or buff? Not that it matters but I'm surprised she's getting attention AGAIN.

LostFr0stFeb 21, 20171 votes

She never got her "attention," all she got was nerfs to stop her from being perma pick/ban.

They want to shift her back to her original diver damage threat fantasy rather than the current knock-up tank bot she currently is. They will fear the queen of the Xer'sai once more.

YerALizardHarryFeb 21, 20171 votes

By attention i meant that Riot was looking to change her again, i know she got a lot of nerfs but she was like the main source of attention that Riot was focusing at the time of the nerfs, but what you said sounds interesting do you have a link about her changes?

LostFr0stFeb 21, 20171 votes

Yeah, sure thing^^. Meddler has been posting quite a bit on her recently:

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Hi all,

Some stuff on our minds below. As a reminder some of what gets discussed in these posts is tentative, or theoretical, not a thing that's definitely happening that we're just failing to share all the confirmed the details about.

Rek'Sai

Rek'Sai's mini-update (similar in scope to Shyvana and Alistar's ones last year) is coming along well gameplay wise. Goal is to shift her so she's more fighter/less tank than she currently is, with more focus on personal kill potential and less on CC/team initiation. Also looking to improve satisfaction on the ult, with that likely being the spell that changes the most.

[...other non-Rek'sai stuff after that...]

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/g5KtHmpX-quick-gameplay-thoughts-feb-21

and before that:

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She'll need a tuning pass to ensure she still jungles appropriately after her ability effects have been updated yeah. Increased Q damage (higher AD ratio) will likely offset at least some of power lost off AOE knockup removal. Also possible we go with something like knockup on primary target, brief knockaside on others, damage on all.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/4umJm2vu-meddler-azir-mini-rework?comment=000200020000