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The healing on Kayn's E

Fuh Queue·6/28/2017, 2:11:58 PM·14 votes·2,204 views

I see this topic getting alot of play right now. Some people don't see the need to have a heal on an ability that offers so much play making potential. While I agree, I'd like to look at the ability as it currently is and offer my suggestions.

From the gameplay I've seen, the heal keeps Kayn alive during his early clear. Although he does clear fast, he has no defensive stats other than this heal. Without it at all, I'd argue that jungle Kayn would suffer greatly.

Even though the heal isn't very strong, the mobility his E offers is incredibly strong. If you don't know, the duration that Kayn can travel through walls is lessened greatly if he is in combat. To make this ability less frustrating for those playing into him, I suggest removing the heal on his E ability if he enters a wall while in combat.

This way the heal will still be strong for navigation around the map and keeping him healthy during jungle clears but not being overbearing for the enemy team.

36 Comments

AmazoX6/28/2017, 4:45:54 PM8 votes

People complaining about Kayn's small healing on E because his getting a lot of attention meanwhile where were these players when Warwick abilities were revealed? Hahah.

Aptest6/28/2017, 2:41:33 PM3 votes

my response to this is as follows:

1 junglers do not need sustain to jungle. They do not need it in the sense that the creeps do not do enough damage to prevent jungling, and they do not need it in the sense that it's not a bad thing that they drop their HP in the jungle. 2 junglers do not need to be full hp while jungling. It is in fact BETTER that throughout the game there are periods where they are jungling and low HP. Especially with champions with high ability to escape and limit any engagement upon them, them starting an invade against them with low hp is a good thing.

Dreadlocks6/28/2017, 2:14:53 PM3 votes

I tested him on pbe, can easily clear raptors with q.. Didnt have a leash, and was healthy... The E doesnt tie into his clear enough to warrant it a necessity.

Galiö6/28/2017, 2:47:39 PM2 votes

I don't think he should have free access to the heal without being in the bruiser heal form.

Aflahart6/29/2017, 6:52:07 AM1 votes

Does his E make him go invisible?

Skorch6/28/2017, 6:04:27 PM1 votes

Personally i do think the heal is small enough that it can be there. As you stated it helps with early clear, and while people may argue that "not every jungler has a good healthy clear" My argument is usually more squishy champions DO have sustain, and a lot of champions that dont have any are tanky enough to survive it anyway.

I feel like people are trying to just shave things off his kit without even knowing if hes balanced or not. And its 100% out of plain fear of him being strong opposed to "Trying to make him less complex" because aside from his transforming mechanic, Kayn is actually SUPER simple.

I havent had a chance to play him yet, but IMO his balance will entirely depend on his Q and W base damages, as well as inherent tankiness. His E is annoying, but thats all it is, ANNOYING Fizz E, Vladimir W, most of Yasuo's kit, Shaco . They are all annoying, but annoying doesnt mean broken.

From what I see the people freaking out about "Kayns gonna E behind my turret and just kill me, his gank is too strong" I see it as if Talon would go for it, Kayn would. Talon most likely has a lot better early kill potential than Kayn, so if Talon would be afraid of diving, so would Kayn.

Rexxiee6/28/2017, 6:39:01 PM1 votes

Why does he need sustain to jungle clear if his clear is fast?

Why does every jungler needs to be "perfect"?

sirwaterfles6/29/2017, 12:38:34 AM1 votes

I think he should NOT be able to go trough walls while in combat.