Riot since you are touching basicly all other items...

Irelia Bot··1 votes·433 views

Can you make Wit's end not so limited to only the likes of Teemo, Kayle and a few others who don't get it over other options.

Make it so it it worth getting sometimes on AA reliant fighters again like it was in season 2.

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Bird Brains1 votes

Why though?

Irelia Bot1 votes

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Why though?

When was the last tiem you saw this item being used in game? When was the last time before that?

It doesn't have a real niche outside of a couple champs that can consider it. At least Nashor's has it's core base of champs who buy it.

Bird Brains1 votes

it's a good item for on - hit AP champs and it's part of their core I'm pretty sure. Kayle, Kogmaw, Turdmo. Same Reason you don't get FH on Gnar/Renekton.

Lord Desert1 votes

OnHit Ap champs favor Nash, Ad onhit favor BotrK and there are also good MR items too

Irelia Bot1 votes

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it's a good item for on - hit AP champs and it's part of their coreI'm pretty sure.

Which basically leaves you with Kayle and Teemo with a side of Shyvana Udyr and possibly Shen.

I don'y see it being considered that often by any of them but I do remeober it beign really common on Jax and Irelia back in season 2 becore it got a price increase for the MR reduction on hit passive for mMalady that is worthless to most fighters.

They removed an item that I literally only ever saw on Teemo and gave the % AP on hit passive to Nashor's and gave the MR reduction passive to Wit';s end which killed wit's end for all but an extremely small group of champs where as before it has reason to be bough on more champs especially in a lane against a magic damage enemy who might well be rushing armor.

Bird Brains1 votes

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Which basically leaves you with Kayle and Teemo with a side of Shyvana Udyr and possibly Shen.

I don'y see it being considered that often by any of them but I do remeober it beign really common on Jax and Irelia back in season 2 becore it got a price increase for the MR reduction on hit passive for mMalady that is worthless to most fighters.

They removed an item that I literally only ever saw on Teemo and gave the % AP on hit passive to Nashor's and gave the MR reduction passive to Wit';s end which killed wit's end for all but an extremely small group of champs where as before it has reason to be bough on more champs especially in a lane against a magic damage enemy who might well be rushing armor.

I mean you could always just remove / replace it with something else. The item is dated but its still relevant. is I guess my argument.

Starcraft243ver1 votes

It was a must buy on warwick prerework, now it's situational.

Bird Brains1 votes

Any champ that can build Nash can Build wit's end. Nash just has higher priority for CD being high value Priority on champs (that value cd). I don't know what your argument is here.

Bird Brains1 votes

If anything, Make Wit's end have scaling mr on champ hit. That is if it needs a buff. I think its fine where it's at though. wait it does well shoot lol.

Bird Brains1 votes

And Wit's End can Take Priority over Nash when vs hard ap or fed ap early.

Bird Brains1 votes

i think wits end is a cool item, but it's champion dependant like I don't think any 1 item should be must buy. or Higher Priority. Especially an Item like Wits End. Where SFC, FH, Hurricane, Shiv, ROA, Morello Etc. basically do the same thing.

Sohleks1 votes

Hmm so it's basically only good enough for ranged champions. I've played Teemo and Kayle some and felt it at times a good item for both. Heck I've thought it more than viable on Gnar. Well that is before Ruined King became OP. Then again BORK doesn't step on Wits for Gnar because wits has a shorter build path and more straight bulk (for lane vs. 1 ap)

The magic resist reduction that is relatively new on it is gonna make it harder to sell to bruisers without being even more strong on those already liking it. They pushed the item away from that with that addition.

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