So these Elise buffs slated on the PBE are kinda good

KoKoboto·Mar 28, 2018·2 votes·442 views

Venomous Bite (Spider Q) damage increased from 60/100/140/180/220 to 70/110/150/190/230 Cocoon (Human E) cooldown lowered from 14/13/12/11/10 to 12/11.5/11/10.5/10

Unless you're in a drawn out fight it's unlikely early game that you'll be using E twice or human form Q twice. ~~Granted I max E first on Elise~~ Mid game the change can be really noticeable because you can throw out cocoons more often. The Q change is pretty whatever. Elise could really benefit from a small rework like changing one of her abilities or something.

I predict that if these buffs go through Elise will see a 0.8% winrate increase. Getting picks with E mid-game could really give her a boost but in comparison to other junglers it's whatever

2 Comments

KaìjuMar 28, 20182 votes

Elise lacks the utility and base dmg to go off tank later in the game like Lee. Her only benefit is she still has a decent early game but she just falls off very quickly if you don't start the game 1-2/0. I think a mini rework would also be a good idea. Her human Q is fairly boring. Maybe something to give her more combo power? Right now she feels weird, and her E still feels mad clunk. I will repel down immediately in a crowd of enemies without pressing the button and it feels awful.

TormentulaMar 28, 20181 votes

That venomous bite buff doesn't change anything at all, (that +10 damage would've been way better for human Q, hell that power budgeted to spider Q should've been budgeted so human Q can get even more power then that.)

The cocoon buff I don't think will make a huge difference. .8% winrate maybe (lower is my guess.. like .3) but it doesn't fix her glaring issues on why she isn't meta at the moment (you will still have cocoon going top - > mid - > bot or whatever with or without buff, but teamfights won't go down any differently and she still has no suitable way to deal with tanks/bruisers.). Base spider Q damage will help her clear a tiny bit but not by much, (like 1-2s faster maybe?) so thats just unnoticable.

She'll need follow up buffs, and these ones are power budgeted in places they're not needed in/won't make a difference in.

At best we'll get to do scuttle crab and have cocoon up sooner after doing it early.