Why is Xin Zhao's heal more potent than Aatrox's?

Shroom Junkie··2 votes·1,078 views

Aatrox W, Blood Thirst/Blood Price: While toggled off Aatrox benefits from Blood Thirst, while toggled on Blood Price is activated and removes Blood Thirst. Blood Thirst: Every third attack, Aatrox restores 20/25/30/35/40 (+25% bonus Attack Damage) Health, increased by 200% when below half Health. Blood Price: Every third attack, Aatrox deals 60/95/130/165/200 (+100% bonus Attack Damage) bonus physical damage and loses Health.

XinZhao W, Battle Cry: Passive: Xin Zhao heals himself for 30/35/40/45/50 (+70% Ability Power) every third basic attack. Active: Xin Zhao unleashes a battle cry, increasing his Attack Speed by 40/50/60/70/80% for 5 seconds.

So, at all ranks, Xin Zhao's passive heal heals him for more than Aatrox. The only exception to this is the AD ratio, in which is only 25%, and only bonus AD, not base. His heal also works while using the active, and when its on cooldown, however Aatrox's only works when Blood Thirst is on, meaning he has to LOSE health to deal more damage, while Xin Zhao GAINS health.

Aatrox is based upon health regen in combat. Why does he have less ability regen than Xin? Aatrox even uses health, as Xin uses mana. How is this fair at all? I say either buff Aatrox's heal, or remove Xin's.

23 Comments

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

Above half HP, Aatrox gets a weaker heal.

Below half HP, it's 60/75/90/105/120 +75% bonus AD. Higher base and scaling at any rank compared to rank 5 on Xin.

Fancy that, Xin's heal is only stronger when his health is already okay and he doesn't need the sustain as much.

Sorgklaan2 votes

Plus, nobody is mentioning that aatrox has two massive attack speed steroids and tends to build a lot more attack speed than xin anyways. meaning he can trigger his heal a lot more.

3TWarrior1 votes

and that fact that Aatrox has two unconditional crowd controls and a second life passive for up to...was it 30% or 40% of his hp?

Durzaka2 votes

10 health vs. scaling with your main source of damage.

Ill take the scaling any day.

Not to mention half of the abilities power is in Blood Price for dealing damage. Or that he gets increased healing when he is low on health.

3TWarrior1 votes

tripled healing in fact

bbanana1 votes
  • Every third attack, Aatrox restores 20/25/30/35/40 (+25% bonus Attack Damage) Health (+25% bonus Attack Damage)

  • heals himself for 30/35/40/45/50 (+70% Ability Power) (+70% Ability Power)

Other than that it's rather useless, 10 health ;p

Thanotos Omega6 votes

Exactly Aatrox get's more healing for building his favorite stat which also tends to come with Life Steal, XinZhao has to add some AP to gain more,

ShuffledPancake1 votes

Bump

kJs1 votes

AP Xin with Devourer isn't too bad either. Well it wasn't too bad.

Zair Umbras1 votes

Xin with a Devourer, Rageblade, Gunblade, and a Nashor's is rearing it's head... just like it is with Yi... AP Yi and AP Xin are returning and it's not going to be pretty.

Kazaashi1 votes

I like how you missed the "increased by 200% when below half Health." So, at below half health, AAtrox does 40/50/60/70/80 (+50% bonus AD).

Xin heals the same all the time.

Think about things before you just blindly complain about them.

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

Increased by 200%, as in +200% effect.

It's tripled, not doubled. 60/75/90/105/120 +75% bonus AD when he's at half HP.

Kazaashi1 votes

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Increased by 200%, as in +200% effect.

It's tripled, not doubled. 60/75/90/105/120 +75% bonus AD when he's at half HP.

Indeed it is. Math strikes again!

Anonagon1 votes

increased by 200% when below half health 25% bonus AD ratio persistent AS steroid resourceless

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Shroom Junkie1 votes

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^

He does have a resource. His own health.

Anonagon1 votes

that implies that his health costs are higher than the healing he gets from his W and lifesteal, which it isnt

3TWarrior1 votes

would it matter even if it was less? he has a revive passive that's up every few minutes and an attack speed steroid that doesn't steal an ability slot like xin's

if Xin could use his W for a knockup and have a better Q with his other passives on passive, he'd be a larger threat

Sire Hippington1 votes

so you don't get atleast 40ad on Aatrox? cause thats all you need to match xins W. you also max xins W last, while you usually max Aatrox W first+you nearly always use the damage proc till your below 50%...

DaedricTerror131 votes

Agreed

DaedricTerror131 votes

I also thank Xin's heal should be removed, he just doesn't need it at all.

kJs1 votes

Because Xin uses mana and has cooldowns.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

His healing is a passive effect every third hit. It doesn't have a cooldown.

Note: I am not saying that the heal is an issue. Just correcting a mistake.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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Because Xin uses mana and has cooldowns.

Wtf... That necrobump tho. Been awhile since I thought Xin was OP xD

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