It's about time, we Leblanc Main have suffered long enough. Can we just please get our precious Leblanc back? There's is no need for argument there are plenty of them and you should know by now how much the changes just fucked her up over the years.
Oleandervine17 votesI would rather she get the Ryze treatment and they just give up on trying to tinker with her kit and just give her a VGU already. She looks really shitty compared to new Swain now, you can't even take her seriously. She's supposed to the be counter power in Noxus to Swain, as well as his weird lover, but now she definitely looks her age compared to him.
taleofsonata7 votesI would rather she get the Ryze treatment and they just give up on trying to tinker with her kit and just give her a VGU already. She looks really shitty compared to new Swain now, you can't even take her seriously. She's supposed to the be counter power in Noxus to Swain, as well as his weird lover, but now she definitely looks her age compared to him.
Don't even talk about Ryze, he is aweful in solo queue but still played in world. That's a horrible rework.
Oleandervine14 votesBut it's still his most stable rework to date.
taleofsonata4 votesI would rather she get the Ryze treatment and they just give up on trying to tinker with her kit and just give her a VGU already. She looks really shitty compared to new Swain now, you can't even take her seriously. She's supposed to the be counter power in Noxus to Swain, as well as his weird lover, but now she definitely looks her age compared to him.
She actually doesn't Love Swain, she use him nothing more nothing less. Just like her title of Deceiver.
Chromatic Eagle1 votesLover =/= being in love
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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWÆ1 votesI don't see why not
KlydeFrog13 votesUmm no . Killing a person in less then a sec and having 0 counter play is healthy how?
Slepur4 votesThere's plenty of other champs in the game that do that exact thing but they seem to find that to be an issue? It makes no sense to gut one assassin WHO IS MEANT TO DELETE THE SQUISHIES but leave the others untouched.
KlydeFrog2 votesLike who ? .......
PokladnicaZla5 votesThe problem with old LB is that she could do it in less than 1 seconds,but unlike most champion she could wait 5 seconds and do it again. Instead of QQing how better the old LB was,might be good to put that time and energy into thinking how to make better,but not unhealthy to play against.
Infernal Ironic1 votesThe problem with old LB is that she could do it in less than 1 seconds,but unlike most champion she could wait 5 seconds and do it again. Instead of QQing how better the old LB was,might be good to put that time and energy into thinking how to make better,but not unhealthy to play against.
What if I told you skilled le blanc still one shots under 0.4 seconds without passive procing. From 1400 range if nessesary
Rework didnt excatly change that. They just raised skillcap on an already high skillcap champion. And nowdays you ll see maybe 2 players on each server knowing how to delete so fast with Le blanc
PokladnicaZla3 votesI would take playing against current LB than the old LB any day of the week.
The current LB might have higher damage ouput,it's more delayed and harder to play.Old LB was strong in the in the hands of mediocore players.
Is current LB in a good spot? She could be better,is she healthier than old LB ? 100%
Infernal Ironic1 votesI would take playing against current LB than the old LB any day of the week.
The current LB might have higher damage ouput,it's more delayed and harder to play.Old LB was strong in the in the hands of mediocore players.
Is current LB in a good spot? She could be better,is she healthier than old LB ? 100%
Old Lb was also hard to play here are examples
Old kite Combo Q>E>R>Q>W Old chase Combo Q>W>E>R>Q Old dive combo W>R>Q>E Short oneshot Combo W>Q>R>E Wait in fog one shot E>Q>R>W
you constantly had to decide between Q>E and E>q
E>Q had higher E hitrate because you were using it earlier so enemy had lower alert level Q>E had higher burst damage
Both combos would do the same damage in 1.5 seconds. You had to know which one to choose all the time in big combos
Old hear a sound and try to save a clone mindset or thats a mindset I would reccomend (Oh boy did i have some insane jukes wish they were recorded)
Expecting when le blanc passive ll go off and macroing the clone was really hard. Even old Le blanc clone could do base damage assuming it threw an AA as it was dying
And this is just 20 % Of Old Le blanc skill I could keep going
But yeah I prefer new Le blanc but only by a bit
Old Lb was almost as insane as current lb in hands of immense player
Current Le blanc requires specific build knowledge which is something Old lb never had
Automated Riven1 votes[{quoted}](name=Infernal Ironic,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kXJr7O5G,comment-id=001000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-25T17:58:27.249+0000)
Old Lb was also hard to play here are examples
Old kite Combo Q>E>R>Q>W Old chase Combo Q>W>E>R>Q Old dive combo W>R>Q>E Short oneshot Combo W>Q>R>E Wait in fog one shot E>Q>R>W
you constantly had to decide between Q>E and E>q
E>Q had higher E hitrate because you were using it earlier so enemy had lower alert level Q>E had higher burst damage
Both combos would do the same damage in 1.5 seconds. You had to know which one to choose all the time in big combos
Old hear a sound and try to save a clone mindset or thats a mindset I would reccomend (Oh boy did i have some insane jukes wish they were recorded)
Expecting when le blanc passive ll go off and macroing the clone was really hard. Even old Le blanc clone could do base damage assuming it threw an AA as it was dying
And this is just 20 % Of Old Le blanc skill I could keep going
But yeah I prefer new Le blanc but only by a bit
Old Lb was almost as insane as current lb in hands of immense player
Current Le blanc requires specific build knowledge which is something Old lb never had
I wouldn't really say that old Leblanc was hard. She was pretty easy to be good at but did have a high skill cap. I played probably hundreds of games on her before the rework. But playing her in the late game was quite the challenge.
Infernal Ironic1 votes[{quoted}](name=Automated Riven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kXJr7O5G,comment-id=0010000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-25T18:30:55.161+0000)
I wouldn't really say that old Leblanc was hard. She was pretty easy to be good at but did have a high skill cap. I played probably hundreds of games on her before the rework. But playing her in the late game was quite the challenge.
What division did you peek at?
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What division did you peek at?
Highest I have ever ranked is silver 1. But I don't really play ranked tbh. I typically played against gold's pretty regularly. That being said, her combos were not difficult to pull off consistently. And deciding which one wasn't really hard either. The issue with old LB and why she was balanced is that she had a terrible actually team fighting post 20 minutes. Making it past the front line to blow up a squishy without getting cced first and dying plus landing chains (which was required post dfg removal) was really hard.
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWÆ1 votesThere is counterplay bruh
Fairyfleur10 votesThey changed LeBlanc for a reason; so they probably aren't going back, it wasn't fun to get one-shot in very little time by her rotation.
YuGiHo3 votesThey are are changing rengar back and they changed kog back. Just because riot makes a change does not mean it is the right thing to do.
Fairyfleur8 votesThey didn't fully revert Rengar, did they?
Doozku3 votesNot saying I support a full leblanc revert, just adding to the discussion
They did revert the part of rengar that let him oneshot.
Fairyfleur2 votesHe still gives the overlay and warning from a mile away right? If they removed that I'd have a problem but you still get notified when he's trying to kill you.
Skorch1 votesThey actually also reduced the range you are warned, the range he finds you, and increased his ult movespeed.
Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votesDidn't they gut his Jump range though? It's literally half what it used to be.
Doozku1 votesNope. They made it so he lands on top of his target instead of infront since he no longer has the skillshot Q. His leap range is untouched.
H1 H0w are Ya4 votesWith the Silence?
Fuck that cancer shit
Lord Phazanor 1 votes[{quoted}](name=H1 H0w are Ya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kXJr7O5G,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-24T22:16:59.640+0000)
With the Silence?
Fuck that cancer shit
Isn't that an overreaction? :p
nelogis1 votesIf she gets her silence back we revert Kassadin too! [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
I would like to see the chaos that would create to be honest...I wouldn't like to play it but.... just imagine Kassa jumping around 500miles a jump and silencing everything with presence of mind active the whole time... holy
Lord Phazanor 1 votesIf she gets her silence back we revert Kassadin too! [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
I would like to see the chaos that would create to be honest...I wouldn't like to play it but.... just imagine Kassa jumping around 500miles a jump and silencing everything with presence of mind active the whole time... holy
I wouldn't consider it unrealistic given the random ass buffs they did (galio, nunu).
Laçez3 votesNo
Daunt2 votesHell no. What would be the point of picking any other assassin, or even mage, if LB got her old burst window back? They said that they didn't want to rework her but that she'd be too good comparing to other assassins if her burst window got untouched. While i agree that her delays weren't implemented that well, reverting her is not the way to go either.
L Psy Kongroo2 votesRevert the Malz and Shaco reworks while you're at it.
NineTailedMystic9 votesimplying old malz was any better
L Psy Kongroo6 votesimplying old malz was any better
Old Malz didn't become invincible every 10 seconds, so you could actually punish him in lane for auto-shoving.
DeadUnborn2 votesshe needs a VGU rather, her model is shit, she has tons of potential and her current kit desgin is cancer. You can't have a healthy kit on a burst champion that has to nuke dashes than can be called back to original position and a hard CC, that shit aint nowere near fair when viable
Pandemic Punch2 votesOld Soraka please
mew282 votesLets not, I would rather lane vs nothing but zed for the rest of my life then have old leblanc back. She was way to safe well bursting for your entire HP bar unless you build a full Mr item.
strut2 votesFuck no
invisiblecat12 votesNew LeBlanc isn't bad in design It just requires you to stand next to a 3 item vayne for over 1.5 seconds in order to assassinate her And this alone makes her completely useless any rank above gold
Infernal Ironic1 votesNew LeBlanc isn't bad in design It just requires you to stand next to a 3 item vayne for over 1.5 seconds in order to assassinate her And this alone makes her completely useless any rank above gold
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Champion with immense highskillcap useless above gold XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Dont make me laugh holy shit
Edit: I am getting downvoted? XDDDD You people do realise that her winrate and tier goes up the higher you go XD just check lolalytics people
Its the opposite if you are gold player she is useless in gold
invisiblecat11 votesLeBlanc really doesn't have a high skillcap
Infernal Ironic1 votesLeBlanc really doesn't have a high skillcap
Le blanc is the only champion in League history to be nerfed multiple times while she had 45% WINRATE
BECAUSE SHE WAS FKING OP AT 45% WINRATE. AT MULTIPLE TIMES
SO if people CANT FKING PLAY HER PROPERLY TO A POINT WHERE SHE IS AT 45% WINRATE WHILE BEING OP SHE STRICTLY HAS IMMENSE SKILLCAP
Even if we leave the stats out of a way
Fine then name me her 30 core combos. I wont even get in proper juke excecution, proper aim (Yes Le blanc has proper aim specially with R>ABILITY) proper RR macro play, proper speed, Proper build which is something 99.999999999999999999% players fail at
If you view Le blanc as something which you ACTUALLY THINK YOU LL EVER MASTER There is a chance that you have terminal cancer and you should check it up
Infernape1 votesAzir and Ryze would like to have a word with you.
Infernal Ironic1 votesAzir and Ryze would like to have a word with you.
Azir did that once
As far as ryze Goes Idk. I didnt keep a track of his data in detail
I would assume ryze perhaps did it twice
Judging by data LB is hardest to master champion in league. But I would say she is even with yas and riven
Top 3 IMO are Riven Yasuo Le blanc
Ryze is in top 10. Azir is in top 10 for reference
But ryze is the last remaining highskillcap champion I didnt master. (Mainly because he keeps getting reworked so I get discouraged) But I think I have a good grasp on his potentional
KICK OUT AT 22 votesCan i get old gangplank back?
Abibyama2 votesOh god everyone wants a piece of the revert pie
Ionian Vulpix2 votesPlease no. I enjoy being in lane past level 3 now.
Automated Riven1 votesPlease dear God yes. I might actually be able to stomach logging on then.
Mizaya1 votesSure, if I get to have old Xerath back, old old Xerath back in s2/s3