You took away Mundo's and Trundle's auto enhancement on turrets

AhmCha·Dec 25, 2016·142 votes·5,273 views

You did this because they were already good at splitpushing and didn't need the extra help.

Do the same to Camille, she is already good at splitpushing and doesn't need the extra help.

93 Comments

Latex ChokerDec 25, 201626 votes

Mundo didnt lose an AA reset on turrets, they added a whole new reset to Mundo's E and decided that he didnt need MORE turret pressure on top of the AD Steroid it brings. Same deal when they reworked Illaoi's W to % HP and lowered the CD, now it only does the normal AA damage.

Trundle lost his because he could take your turret if you ever left lane thanks to his (at the time) extremely potent sustain and powerful AS steroid in W. Trundle meta was a dark time.

Camille has no wave clear (Her W is maxed last and does half damage to minions) and has no AS steroid to use on the turret, it just looks like she takes it fast because she does it in chunks through her Q + Sheen.

Camille is OP for certain, but stripping away random mechanics for no good reason is not how champion balance works.

Tentacle AdvisorDec 26, 20166 votes

This actually makes a lot of sense. Also, love the name! :p

RizHippoKhanDec 26, 20166 votes

ur username (☉_☉)

DunkinNoobsDec 25, 201616 votes

Good at split pushing in what way, exactly? She's good at 1v1ing people, for sure. But taking towers?

Automated RivenDec 25, 20162 votes

Umm triforce and attack speed. She takes towers pretty quick

ßurstDec 26, 20161 votes

shes quick sure but not the fastest at all, and the OP is comparing 2 mostly tanks that had a massive damage increase on towers to a champ that builds mainly damage oriented items in the first half of the game. if she build what trundle or mundo had during the early and destroyed towers that easy, it would be evident they were a lot better at taking them.

Automated RivenDec 26, 20162 votes

oh for sure. the fasted tower taker is a full built ziggs. but that being said she does take them pretty fast. I dont see what the complaint is to be honest.

TeCoolMageDec 26, 20161 votes

not even, tristana takes the crown, or a veigar with lichbane and enough stacks (good on a team with low tower taking like Vayne ADC) can easily beat ziggs.

Ziggs is just safer and can do it without standing in range the entire time

Automated RivenDec 26, 20163 votes

ziggs with lichbane late game kills tower with AA spell AA e dead tower

RavenMagusDec 26, 20162 votes

Lategame Ziggs with lichbane can legitimately kill full health towers with a single auto attack.

No, no one else can do it THAT fast. Except maybe Veigar or Nasus but even then they'd need more stacks than you'd realistically get in a game to match Ziggs.

ßurstDec 26, 20162 votes

me niether

MohawkBirdDec 25, 20168 votes

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DunkinNoobsDec 25, 201638 votes

That's a tough sell. Jax has a massive AS steroid on his passive.

MohawkBirdDec 25, 20164 votes

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RocketRelmDec 25, 20168 votes

Once we get Training Mode, this'd actually be trivial to set-up and test.

Even now it's possible, but it'd take about an hour or two of effort to set it up. I think it'd depend largely on their builds, and whether they optimized for splitting or for full effectiveness.

SpiritualJargonDec 26, 20161 votes

You're joking right? You do know what her Q is right? The only way you couldn't have good split pushing power on Camille at the moment is if you built pure ability power items

AszathothDec 26, 20165 votes

Just build lich bane and watch as her Q doubles it and converts it to true damage just like Triforce. And then the tower falls in 2 hits.

Glory ln DeathDec 27, 20161 votes

Lich Bane, Nashor's, and maybe Guinsoo's, Rabadon, and Gunblade?

So around 340 bonus damage from the Lich procc, 40-ish from Nashor's, base auto damage, base Q damage, potentially doubled if you get Guinsoo's timed right.

Oh, and her auto damage would get converted to - what is it, 40% AP? - against towers since her AP is so much higher than her AD. So, her base auto damage would actually be around 200 to towers.

That would end up being like, 7-800 damage to towers? Up to around 1400 with Guinsoo's double on-hit effect? With 30% cdr.

I want to try this now.

LA LostyDec 26, 201625 votes

With her constant aa resets and easy sheen procs its gonna be a close call for sure.

DeusVultDec 26, 201641 votes

But Jax has 1000% more "womp" sounds than her when taking a turret so...

ShadowmenderDec 26, 201615 votes

SFX op.

The Ginger NingaDec 26, 201629 votes

The three greatest sounds in League of Legends

dying
The whoosh of the enemy nexus when you win.
Jax hitting a tower

reaperteaserDec 26, 201624 votes

4th is jhin shooting his 4th shot

YasuicideDec 26, 20161 votes

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SoryInAdvanceDec 26, 20163 votes

5th is the sound of darius's voiceover after being banned.

reaperteaserDec 27, 20161 votes

6th is he hexakill announcement and 6.66th is teemos laugh

Mighty MorteinDec 26, 20164 votes

Lux Ctrl + 4 Intensifies

Sahn UzalDec 26, 20163 votes

The sound of a Triple barrel combo into a Cannon Barrage :P

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/4/43/Gangplank.R4.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150803063443

GULAG 4 UDec 26, 20162 votes

I play Jax here. He's the fastest tower taker in the game, no fucking way camille is faster. No fucking way.

The Ginger NingaDec 26, 20162 votes

How is Jax in the current meta? I've always enjoyed playing him, but I stopped after the ADCs went top and haven't picked him up again.

GULAG 4 UDec 26, 20161 votes

Toplane adcs are gone pretty much

He's good in low elo people people auto his dodge, not as much in highelo

Godly splitpushing with any hydra. He destroys a tower in like 10 seconds midgame.

Glory ln DeathDec 27, 20161 votes

Ravenous is good for wave clear and sustain, but Titanic gives you an auto-attack reset, which seems a bit more useful for tower smashing.

GULAG 4 UDec 27, 20161 votes

I don't grab RH most of the time because it's defensive values are mehish.

shicky97Dec 25, 20162 votes

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Good at split pushing in what way, exactly? She's good at 1v1ing people, for sure. But taking towers?

She is good at tower killing because she has 2 auto attack resets in her kit, it's the same reason Vi and Jax are good at killing towers, they both have 1 or more auto attack resets in their kit. Add to that the fact that camille's extra damage on Q applies on towers and you have a tower-killing monster.

Sraeg2013Dec 25, 201613 votes

Good at splitpushing?

She must buy a Tiamat item to not lose the lane to minions.

Maligaro SpikeDec 25, 201611 votes

pretty much this, her waveclear sucks and you're left rushing an early item 3077 delaying item 3078 by a whole 1100 gold or straight rush and prepare to lose a lot of minions

IcyPepperDec 25, 201611 votes

Okay, I'm curious on why I see one original post about something new, and then a sudden flood of posts about the same exact thing instead of, I don't know, being posted in the first thread?

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/TQEL8q3E-camille-should-not-be-able-to-q-turrets

Do you not check the gameplay boards before posting in gameplay, or do you just not care? ~~Or do you wait to see if a thread got some upvotes so you want to get in on the upvote farm~~ Please don't bog down a board with the same content over and over, please

AhmChaDec 25, 20163 votes

I actually never saw that post. This was something on my mind and I decided to post it.

If you feel that something you can scroll past with zero consequences "bogs down a board" that's your problem, not mine.

IcyPepperDec 26, 20166 votes

You're not the first, and some waves are worse than others. There are times the same topic floods the front page.

I'm giving feedback, it's somewhat impolite to not even bother checking the board if you plan on sharing your thoughts. Shouldn't you be receptive to others, and look at what's going on around a board if you're going to be posting on that board? How do you expect others to care about your opinion if you don't care about others?

Glory ln DeathDec 27, 20161 votes

A post of your own tends to get more upvotes and attention than a comment hidden in someone else's post.