I think these DD changes are just what Fiora needs

Asayake 5150glow··1 votes·419 views

And some base tank stats to be toned down (and perhaps a lower AD ratio on Q).

Right now, the fact that Fiora has the base stats of a fighter and the liberty of building 2 tank items without ever really falling off in damage means she is very tanky for a melee carry. Add in her 32% lifesteal, and she's not only a drain-tank, she's a tanky drain-tank.

I think this is making her teamfighting and dueling a lot stronger than it should be, as she doesn't melt as fast as she should, especially not when compared to a Riven who needs to build almost full AD to keep up in damage. Perhaps not burst, but Fiora easily matches other melee carries in DPS.

That being said, this DD change means Fiora is gonna really love the item, even taking it over BT at times. Her tank stats can be lowered because the damage reduction is a lot more potent and gives Fiora an opportunity to heal back damage. Even better, she won't be building 2 tank items, only the standard 1.

However, this comes with problems of it's own, specifically, 30% damage reduction and 48% lifesteal are gonna make her way too tanky. Hell, maybe she'll just replace BT and stick with the 3 damage items 2 tank items. So I think her base tank stats should be lowered so she doesn't become too tanky, and perhaps the AD ratio on her Q should be lowered so she has incentive to get 4 AD items, not just throwing out BT for DD.

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xJLx MCHammer1 votes

Riven gets the benefit of being more mobile, shields, aoe ult, steroids, and multiple CC

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Riven gets the benefit of being more mobile, shields, aoe ult, steroids, and multiple CC

Aye, but her mobility is based around her damage and is generally limited to Q dancing and E's, if she wants to get 100% of her damage. While Fiora can Q in any direction as long as it's near her target,

Riven has shields but Fiora has Riposte, which is also a slow and attack speed slow.

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

Fiora is not the problem. shouldn't be able to build tank, the reason she can is because fervor is busted, 80 ad? that more than makes up for an ad item allowing a tank item to take its spot. Once fervor gets nerfed fiora will be affected. But if her scaling and damage gets nerfed around fervor, then fervor gets nerfed she'll be horrible. Fervor is what's making her op, that's it.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Last Héro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kPUBTZxz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-12T18:23:47.510+0000)

Fiora is not the problem. shouldn't be able to build tank, the reason she can is because fervor is busted, 80 ad? that more than makes up for an ad item allowing a tank item to take its spot. Once fervor gets nerfed fiora will be affected. But if her scaling and damage gets nerfed around fervor, then fervor gets nerfed she'll be horrible. Fervor is what's making her op, that's it.

And if Fervor is making her OP but it's not making everyone else OP, then we should nerf Fiora.

Unless Fervor is OP on everyone else, but it's not. And Fervor isn't getting nerfed - so far, it's only gotten buffs.

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

Uh fervor is op. it makes lots of champions strong. like Warwick for example, builds primarily tank while doing lots of damage, why? Because fervor. And fervor should be slated for nerfs, I remember meddler talking about it being too strong.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Last Héro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kPUBTZxz,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-12T20:27:45.715+0000)

Uh fervor is op. it makes lots of champions strong. like Warwick for example, builds primarily tank while doing lots of damage, why? Because fervor. And fervor should be slated for nerfs, I remember meddler talking about it being too strong.

Erh, no, that's not because Fervor. Lol. Look at Warwick's base damages. His Q is ~260 damage with ~110% (can't remember if bonus or total) AD scaling and 90% AP scaling, and he has 122 base AD, and he builds TItanic Hydra which gives hugeass amounts of burst, and passive onhit damage on his already huge base AD, and a big attack speed steroid.

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