Revert Brand to be a midlaner again ?

RaQqa·Apr 22, 2019·1 votes·1,377 views

This rework just made him a perfect ap support, because right now he doesn't even need items to deal tons of dmg cus of his %hp boom passive. Before his rework, his abilities had better ap scaling and I don't know if also higher base dmg , but he didn't has % hp 3 spell boom passive. So generally on his rework, he just get wave clear nerf and part of his dmg was transfered to his passive making him maybe a better teamfighter and a tank shredder but his burst dmg was converted into more sustained one. He wasn't maybe broken but he was decent, with just reverted kit and a bit of better wave clear or improved R he would be good mage . Of course he is playable mid but meh, it's not the same as he was before, anyway we could have something new on mid without higher effort of creating new champion with 5 dashes, shield, heal, and stealing enemy ult R ^^.

9 Comments

KalikainApr 22, 20192 votes

Its the meta, not the champion. Brand has to land a combo to stun, and has no dashes or slows. We are in the assassin super mobile meta.

Vulkus IApr 22, 20192 votes

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Its the meta, not the champion. Brand has to land a combo to stun, and has no dashes or slows. We are in the assassin super mobile meta.

Yeah okay, lmao

Daddy AntsApr 22, 20192 votes

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Its the meta, not the champion. Brand has to land a combo to stun, and has no dashes or slows. We are in the assassin super mobile meta.

We're not in an Assassin Meta at all.

If anything 90% of the games I play there's a Mage mid lane.

KalikainApr 22, 20191 votes

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We're not in an Assassin Meta at all.

If anything 90% of the games I play there's a Mage mid lane.

Ahri Akali Hecarim Irelia Jax JarvanIV Kayn Kennen RekSai Riven MonkeyKing Zed

These are all high play rate assassins, most s tier. These are the reason this meta is stopping most mages from being viable at a high level. Maybe low elo its mostly mages, but mostly mages are low elo.

I didnt even list all of the assassins, just those youll meet that will stop brand mains from climbing past silver 1.

RaQqaApr 22, 20191 votes

These are not even assassins Jax Irelia Riven JarvanIV RekSai Kennen Hecarim Ahri all of them except kennen and ahri are bruisers, kennen is control mage while ahri is more like a burst mage. All of these played on silver 1 are played on the low lvl so they are not even a threat to stop from climb.

The only one troublesome on low elo might be Zed because people don't know about building item 3157 and, that his shadow clone combo can deal half of your hp. But nevermind, he is banned all the time so I see no problem. Akali requires too much skill, brain and knowledge to use her potential and low elo player won't really have it, she is usually kappa on low elo.

Low elo really doesn't struggle because of broken picks, but because of bad game knowledge and bad decision making, If u are really better than anyone else, u can carry and climb.

Every mage can beat assassins, just all u need is the knowledge how to play with a certain champion vs certain champion.

The problem with brand doesn't really lie in the meta, just he is trash midlaner . Old brand could deal 70% of hp with his Q+w+E combo while the current one will deal 50% or less + passive %hp after 3 s. His Q E R base dmg were nerfed almost 50 dmg each, and ap ratios nerfed Q by 0.10, E 0.20 and R 0.20 ap ratio. He could easier poke someone with e because it had higher dmg , even with q, he didn't have to make a full combo to actually deal some dmg like normal mages, and that why mainly he suck at mid lane right now, without hitting your full combo or w u are just doing 0 and get outtraded by anyone. Current brand is just better against high hp targets maybe 2.5k hp+, may be better in teamfight, but in my opinion its just not so hard to dodge passive circles just to stop free penta for him.

Daddy AntsApr 24, 20191 votes

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These are all high play rate assassins, most s tier. These are the reason this meta is stopping most mages from being viable at a high level. Maybe low elo its mostly mages, but mostly mages are low elo.

I didnt even list all of the assassins, just those youll meet that will stop brand mains from climbing past silver 1.

Ahri - Mage Akali - Assassin Hecarim - Diver Irelia - Bruiser Jax - Bruiser JarvanIV - Diver Kayn - Assassin Kennen - Mage RekSai - Diver Riven - Bruiser MonkeyKing - Diver Zed - Assassin

In that list there's only 3 champions officially considered Assassin's.

OtterlyLostApr 22, 20191 votes

.-. By that logic, he shouldn't even be popular bot as in an actual Assassin Meta, real supports are the primary counter and are what wins games. It is not the Meta. It completely the champion and he needs a serious gutting of his base damages in exchange for higher AP scalings.

KalikainApr 22, 20191 votes

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.-. By that logic, he shouldn't even be popular bot as in an actual Assassin Meta, real supports are the primary counter and are what wins games. It is not the Meta. It completely the champion and he needs a serious gutting of his base damages in exchange for higher AP scalings.

You have to look at match ups and jungle proximity to validate your point. With the bot lane being the least influential, you do not pick bot lane to globally counter other lanes or jungle. (An example is the old trundle support to counter tank jg/top) These days you play to counter your support opposition, where outside of pyke, mages can bully a lane unrelentlessly. This is why brand is played support, as many other mages are doing.

This is also why enchanters are top support picks, play making supports arent good outside of thresh, enchanters counter mage supports and most troll picks like yasuo.

Daddy AntsApr 22, 20192 votes

Zyra Velkoz Veigar Lux all need to fuck off back to mid lane.