Can we revert Pyke and Tahm to actually be supports "only"?

RaQqa·6/4/2019, 10:07:53 AM·5 votes·1,474 views

Just I don't know, how supports can lane so smoothly and be so strong on solo lane, Tahm can just 1v1 almost with anybody, while Pyke can 1v5 the game with his ultimate, he can just go on any lane Top,Mid,Jg, support, bah he may even be adc, he is almost in every game that I play, and he is doing incredible well, often carrying.

They are cancer to play against, just increase their support potential, and nerf solo laning idk how , I don't have any ideas, im not playing them. They were designed to support role, look where they are now, lmao.

Similar problem with Brand, Zyra which were supposed to be midlaners, and just got gutted to be supports, they are untouched since years, they need rework.

16 Comments

JuiceBoxP6/4/2019, 10:28:34 AM4 votes

Tahm kench was fucking cancer before he got changed. He might be out of bot lane, but now he makes for a good top laner.

Pyke is a great support that can do mid lane due to the fact he is highly mobile and he has kill pressure.

It's not out of the ordinary that some champs can be good in several lanes. Yasuo Olaf Camille Irelia Jayce Shen Swain Vladimir Diana MasterYi Neeko Morgana Pantheon Vayne

That list pretty much goes on ...

2 Weezy Baby6/4/2019, 10:10:23 AM3 votes

Wow sounds like if you pick them, you'll get free wins! What're you waiting for dude??!! Pick Pyke and you can 1 v 5 with just his ult!

AR URF6/4/2019, 10:12:53 AM2 votes

I remember playing tahm back when you got boosted movement speed when you swallowed an ally. Now you get slowed.......

lolipopevelynn6/4/2019, 4:43:49 PM1 votes

tahm has always felt better in top lane than as a support. even in jg he feels better back when he could jg.

CrazyMonkeyCZ6/4/2019, 11:39:58 AM1 votes

Played like 30 games of solo lane Pyke so far(top is the weakest imo), his biggest power is his roaming and how easy it is to snowball, almost in every game I played him mid, I shoved, got 6, went bot, got at least one kill, dying or not doesn't matter, once you are ahead you can start 1v1ing, but when you are even with him, you shouldn't lose to Pyke in 1v1.

On the other hand, Pyke is absolute paper, you are forced to get tiamat if you want to push, even with your passive, getting poked out is possible, you have engage, but no real disengage(kinda your W, but it's meh).

Imo, good entertaining low to mid elo stomper, higher you have to invest time to learn matchups and your macro has to be good.

I would rather pick Talon or Rumble for easy mid with roaming potential, but that's just personal preference.

stay noided af6/4/2019, 3:52:54 PM1 votes

Jungle pyke is actually trolling. He literally cannot clear his jungle safely, enemy lee sin/reksai/jarvin/seju etc walks straight up to you and all you can do is give up every camp. ADC pyke is also trolling.

Top/Mid is viable into certain matchups. Its also easy as fuck to counterpick: Riven, Camille, Tryndamere, Renekton, Darius, Poppy, Volibear, Sylas, Quinn for top. Yasuo, Diana, Heimerdinger, Cassiopea, Morgana, Sylas, Ekko, TF for mid. Basically any champion with A Revive( trynd /ekko ), Multiple Dashes and displacements (Yasuo /Diana/Sylas/Renekton/Riven), Ways to stop pyke from using E or Q or escaping(Heimerdinger, Cassiopea, Poppy, Camille), or ways to get AOE true sight that prevent pyke passive from working(TF/Quinn) all counter pyke to one degree or another. This list isn't exhaustive there are other counters as well.

What isn't good against pyke is squishy "lane bully tops" like jayce or kennen, and immoble backline squishy mids like xerath, lux or velkoz. Tanks are usually farm fests for pyke top, and he will have to roam elsewhere to make plays. Pyke is decent against talon and Akali, but bad vs zed.

SithesisLord6/4/2019, 4:01:02 PM1 votes

Kench is supposed to flex into top lane since release.

Pyke isn't.