Don't u think Draven is too strong right now ?

RaQqa·7/2/2019, 10:02:39 PM·47 votes·16,406 views

This guy is nuts, in every stage of the game. His early is definetly too strong and unpunishable with . Honestly, I don't know what would be a better nerf for him. Nerfing his passive, or his Q dmg in early. He is lane bully, ok I get it, but he doesn't really fall off, unless his lane is gankbanged 5 times by all of players making him 0/3 in 10 min of the game, in this time draven is equal to the enemy adc.

Im not ranting about him because i am loosing vs him on lane. Im not even playing adc much. Just I see how strong is this champion currently, and that he almost always wins his lane, if jungler won't really punish him.

Ofc there are few adc in the mid game that catch up to him , and that outperformence him in late, but to get to the late game vs draven that won early is just almost impossible.

88 Comments

SomeKat7/2/2019, 10:07:33 PM26 votes

he has low utility for a class that isn't supposed to have utility, yet because adc's are overloaded, he comparably has low utility. So he's given more damage to do his job better, ironically his job is the same as all other ADCs, and so Draven is strong because other ADCs cry about needing slows and stuns and peel and invulnerability and intargetability and knockups and blinks and dashes and traps and aoe and invisibility and spell shields and etc. Draven is single Target damage, that's it, and so he's allowed to be good at it. The problem is other ADCs are less like Draven.

Hayaishi27/2/2019, 10:10:50 PM11 votes

The simple fact that he only has like one bad match up and he pretty much outrades everything in bot lane in because he pressed Q should tell you he's broken and shitty designed.

The thigh guy7/3/2019, 12:30:26 AM7 votes

This is all you need to do to fix Draven.

Change his bonus damage to not apply lifesteal. Bam. Now he isn’t shitting out damage while healing 1/3 of his hp per auto.

Darkdemon6537/2/2019, 10:07:01 PM4 votes

I do think he is, but I don't think it's his fault. I think it's the fault of games ending too early. I would buff minions and objectives rather than nerf him.

MorgManBasher7/3/2019, 11:35:20 AM2 votes

Meh, there are plenty of ADC's that do fine into Draven. Caitlyn Sivir Ezreal

Sivir hard push him under tower, make him miserable Caitlyn Also a lane bully, annoying as Hell to play against Ezreal Play passive as Hell, Q minions, make Draven bored and go item 3025 Ashe I also feel is decent with her perma slows and poke. Draven having to constantly eat volleys when going for axes. She is very strong now with the last buffs to her volley.

StormBladeMaster7/3/2019, 7:37:16 PM2 votes

Yeah i hate him...

But fortunatelly, i'm a Caitlyn main, so laning phase isn't totally shitty because Caitlyn is probably his only counter and she is safe.

Draven is stupid. The only way to make him useless, is to call jungler 24/24 and ruin his game. He deals too much dmg.

Thx to god, he is hard to play, so i don"t encounter him often.

Over side man7/3/2019, 9:59:41 PM2 votes

Funny thing is Draven greatly fits the ADC’s description. (High damage, low utility, weak mobility.) But the other ADC’s are filled with cc, dashes, invis, jumps.

DeusVult7/3/2019, 5:50:43 AM2 votes

This is how draven has always been. He has insane damage and dominates the lane, but mid to late game he needs to be very far ahead because he has short range and puts himself in dangerous positions in order to access his great damage

Zeppelins circus7/3/2019, 12:31:32 AM2 votes

Also have you guys ever seen a Draven players imput? It is probably one of the hardest in league.

AnotherFeeder7/3/2019, 1:12:39 AM2 votes

Champs actually kinda worthless atm.

He's an adc thats forced to win lane to be viable compared to any other adc, in a meta where adcs have nearly no say in whether or not they win lane.

He's rly only good for smurfing in an elo where u can basically 1v2 without issues.

Hahahahyena7/3/2019, 3:20:24 AM2 votes

once he gets item 3072 (which isnt hard) he becomes an unpunishable burst champ that can 3 shot anyone in his lane. i had a cait game where i bullied him so hard that i was nearly double his cs and almost had his turret. but of course as soon as he got all he had to do was press q and he could 1v2 me and my support, never mind the fact that i had essentially won lane, no draven just erased that and carried the game cause he just melted everyone in teamfights

wanna gank him? all he does is pres e w and he is already under his tower while youre still slowed for days

wanna fight him? he'll burst you down before you get deal even half his health

punish off his q? good luck cause he only needs to be in the general area, not the actual landing spot, plus he controls WHERE it will land, rather than it landing where he is so all he has to do is auto and move back

the fact that all he does is press q and gains a shit load of damage on autos is insane

Mathgodpi7/4/2019, 5:21:00 AM1 votes

Hyperscaling champions are too powerful in general, imo. There's nothing worse than playing adc or support, and watching helplessly as the enemy top lane Yasuo or Nasus goes 6/0 in lane phase with near perfect cs, knowing that there won't be any way of slowing him down in the mid/late game.

Same thing if you're top lane, and the enemy Draven is 6/0 with a giant cs lead before you've even had the chance to do anything about it.

Eternal Torment7/4/2019, 5:27:02 AM1 votes

These guys here complaining about draven, meanwhile every game I see an MF, ally or enemy, run rampart with 31/5 scores and stuff

Prime1597/17/2019, 2:45:27 AM1 votes

the only reason people on here think he is "fine" or "balanced" is because they don't play against decent dravens often. there are so many people who need to put all their focus onto catching the axes and can't concentrate on anything else, and are just terrible with him. when you go against someone who is decent and around the same mmr as you, he cannot be stopped in early laning phase. once he gets vampiric, he can heal almost everything. there have been plenty of times i've watched a bot lane hit every single skill on him, aa's weaved in, and draven takes almost no damage because of a heal/shield support. luckily he is a bit higher mechanical skill than some, so you really don't need to deal with him often in the silver-platinum elo.

WishIHadTenHands10/10/2019, 5:34:35 PM1 votes

i honestly dont care what you think, being 1-4-1 losing lane and STILL dealing the most damage in the game is absolute garbage, definitely needs nerfed, especially when you factor Nami Janna Yuumi Lulu into the equation. oo look i can walk around and catch axes die over and over and still bully lane stupid. its like he has to be 0-15 to become irrellevant when Jhin Jinx Ashe Lucian are punished for winning lane