Reworking Fiora`s ult was a right step into removing the most notcounterable thing in the game

BobbyCarHaterX··143 votes·9,496 views

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Rysophage13 votes

I love people complain about fizz and forget about Vladimir . You're just mad fizz kills you faster for being stupid.

Reynard the ƒox20 votes

Vlad's kit is pretty cancer when you think about it.

Imagine if Nidalee spears healed her for a portion of the damage they dealt.

Rysophage17 votes

item 3152 item 3146 Perfectly fine items on her but they're not in everyones mobafire guide so no one ever builds them, and would probably get flamed for doing so. because this community is awesome.

GundayMonday11 votes

I'm going to try this. 15% of damage dealt BEFORE RESISTANCES healed. Can you imagine the full cdr blue buff AP Nidalee kiting champs with this in an extended fight?

Rysophage5 votes

It's a niche item and nid's one of the champions its good on. Have fun.

Remlap12238 votes

I'm upvoting you because of how brilliant that is, but just know you're making the world a worse place. Scum.

LeeDark2 votes

Trouble is that Nid doesn't really need the health; she has a heal that scales well with AP anyway.

SoMNia3 votes

Primal Surge outheals anything she can do with spellvamp, anyway. I could see Gunblade on Diana, but Nidalee doesn't need it. Grail is enough for her. Admittedly, Grail+Gunblade gives her practically infinite sustain, which is fine if you want to murder bots all day, but in a more competitive environment, you'd want more AP for sure.

ShinobisDemon2 votes

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Vlad's kit is pretty cancer when you think about it.

Imagine if Nidalee spears healed her for a portion of the damage they dealt.

item 3152

I Miss Cannon53 votes

Are you fucking serious? Trollpools CD isn't stupidly low plus a dash in any direction you want.

Rysophage12 votes

Fish are pretty slippery. So are assassins. Fizz is both.

I Miss Cannon19 votes

That doesn't justify Fizz' retarded kit.

Anidan9 votes

Nothing justifies the kit of an assassin in the eyes of the boards. Literally no assassin has ever gone un-complained about. Not one.

Damn I'm glad the boards aren't in charge of balance. Just sayin'.

Sona Ping2 votes

Well it not like assassins aren't defined in this game by having strengths in areas where other champions types pay for theirs.

Solaxo27 votes

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Are you fucking serious? Trollpools CD isn't stupidly low plus a dash in any direction you want.

also it takes quite a chunk of his HP, at least in early/mid game

Katrina969 votes

still does late if used in correctly. 20% Health cost

LICENSED HOOKER3 votes

bro relax, its not like fizz can 1v1 >.> hes a 1v5 champ

Sooko2 votes

Well... Vlad is still not able to go through walls, that's why I Volibear it anyway

Bârd7 votes

Vlad pool

low damage, long cooldown, costs 20% current health

FIzz

"Where did my hp go?" every 8 seconds for 130 mana

gaby1best5 votes

*4.7 seconds with 40% CDR.

Rikari4 votes

Sanguine Pool: costs 20% of his current health. Has a high cooldown. Can't Cross Walls.

Renders you untargetable but not invulnerable,ie,DoT spells or timer spells stil land but no new attacks will land. Troll Pole: Low Cd on AP Crosses Walls Splash Damage LOW COOLDOWN INVULNERABILITY FFS Vlad can actually kill better since 3/4 of his spells are AoE and his ult boosts all his damage. Vlad kills more for being stupid.

Kuroi863 votes

Dot actually are supposed to still apply during Playful/Trickster.

The good thing about Sanguine pool of course is that once you have some spell vamp and a minion wave you can easily heal back more health than the spell cost you.

Mostly the big thing people have been saying for a long time is to simply increase the cooldown.

Vlad and Elise both have long cooldowns on theirs, why not the fish?

Llanite2 votes

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Sanguine Pool: costs 20% of his current health. Has a high cooldown. Can't Cross Walls.

Renders you untargetable but not invulnerable,ie,DoT spells or timer spells stil land but no new attacks will land. Troll Pole: Low Cd on AP Crosses Walls Splash Damage LOW COOLDOWN INVULNERABILITY FFS Vlad can actually kill better since 3/4 of his spells are AoE and his ult boosts all his damage. Vlad kills more for being stupid.

Only low enough if he max it. Otherwise it's 12s.

If fizz is forced to use his e defensively, he has zero offense power, unlike Vlad who can still farm and all-in at ease without his w.

Luckydeath9739 votes

Fizz and Fiora is not the same thing .

Many times as fiora i died by poison , ignite and any DoT , even brand's passive .

Let's also not forget if a target doesn't die from it and gets into their team you are a defenseless Fiora with no Lunge , no Attack speed boost and no Ult ready to be killed . Fiora's ult was basically a way to dodge AoE skillshots that she could also dodge by pressing Flash and mostly to execute targets and wait for some cooldowns to come back ...

Fiora's ult isn't crazy , it's a longer MasterYi Q nothing more ... I also don't like that much the new ult but heh .

Stiv12347 votes

I never noticed that evilness in his eye.

Greedwalker5 votes

Wrong. Fiora ult never was an op for me. It's gamechangint thing, yes, but you can play with it and against it, if fiora is fed there is such things as zhonyas, brushes, etc.

Rysophage3 votes

adcs don't build zhonyas. they just die instantly to a fed fiora.

Mokrestio3 votes

She was an assassin although classified as Fighter. It was her job. A fed Rengar can also instantly kill you.

ZanderShadowbane1 votes

She was classified Fighter Assassin, though now it's probably Fighter Support. Seriously, why have a support skill for The Grand Dualist.

rukasbukas5 votes

Just changed fiora completely....why just don't create new character with those all 5 different abilities? Because this is what they did. Removed all the abilities and replaced them. And they are saying something about fiora being more supportive. OMG. It has max att damage. MAX ATT DAMAGE. Why she needs to support if she has max attack?? This RIOT update forewer screwed by most loved char...dissapointed in RIOT...

Rysophage4 votes

Fiora's ult was faceroll as hell. hourglass was the only counter to it and that is only if you were the FIRST target. I'm sorry that you will actually have to learn some mechanics for once. Most of her changes were buffs in the right direction, like her W, or give her some gameplay decisions like her E. I'm sorry you can't walk into lane at 100 AD and press R and instantly kill someone. Find another freelo train to ride. Or you can get better.

Mokrestio4 votes

She wasn't op at all. She is maybe in Silver V, but once you realise how to poke and lane she will be an easy target. My friend, fear the Ryze or irelia, cause they will smack you back to reality and let you realise that Fiora was a piece of cake.

Anidan4 votes

Fiora ain't Freelo. She never was. Just because a champion is mechanically simple does not make them freelo. Do people even know what Freelo means anymore? Because I'm gonna guess they don't.

My favorite was when people called Lee Sin freelo back when he had a 45% win rate in pretty much every solo queue tier, and was only considered great in a coordinated environment. But don't worry guys, he was freelo like you don't even know!

MalzaharAnyLane2 votes

{quoted} My favorite was when people called Lee Sin freelo back when he had a 45% win rate in pretty much every solo queue tier, and was only considered great in a coordinated environment. But don't worry guys, he was freelo like you don't even know!

This never happened, and you're brain damaged for suggesting otherwise.

Lee Sin was freelo, less so now but still stupidly overloaded. He was never considered great only in 5v5's.

Anidan3 votes

I've been here every single time the dude has been complained about.

Here's the biggest concerns people tend to have about Lee Sin: He's consistently strong in coordinated competitive play because of the nature of his kit, and if he gets ahead he's 'oppressive.'

For the first point that's not even a trait exclusive to Lee Sin. Other champions are also very strong in competitive play thanks to the nature of their kit itself when the meta is favorable for them (Hi, Orianna!). And for the second point: EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN EARLY GAME CHAMP FEELS OPPRESSIVE IF THEY'RE AHEAD. Lee Sin doesn't even have the easiest time of the early game champions getting ahead, he just feels more miserable because of his mobility when he gets ahead.

But yes, keep thinking his very consistent 44-46% win-rates in solo queue are 'freelo' (Freelo implies he must have a very high pickrate and a very high winrate (55%+). Riven isn't even Freelo. Old Season 2 Ezreal was freelo. Pre-Season 3 Talon was Freelo. Pre-season 5 Warwick was Freelo. Lee Sin has never been Freelo, not even when he was more overloaded due to having even more superfluous power in his kit.

The Loveless5 votes

I laughed my head off but can you guys please stop riding Fizz's ass?

TurquoiseYoshi18 votes

I ride whoever's ass I want.

Traxinator5 votes

So you're saying that % Max Health True Damage is counterable??

im s0 bad2 votes

Vayne

Anidan2 votes

Unlike Vayne's, Fiora's scales with her AD.

Though she does have to hit the Vitals, but still.

MalzaharAnyLane3 votes

Honestly % Max Health True Damage is stupid on either Vayne or Fiora.

O Fallen Scholar3 votes

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Honestly % Max Health True Damage is stupid on either Vayne or Fiora.

Fiora = melee / squishy / needs to hit vital spots / riot wanted to give her some power to deal with naturally scaling tanks even when she is behind / % true damage is only her ult (she has to aim for these spots 4 times, passive is flat true damage and also has to aim for these spots

Vayne = marksman /squishy / needs to auto attack 3rd time / designed to shred tanks / silver bolts is % true damage

IceKingChernobog4 votes

now it's replaced with an AoE heal which would be fine if it healed maybe for 35 or something per second and her W now breaks skill shots and slows because thats fair, other than that her kit is pretty balanced. I can't give a verdict until it hits live servers

Rysophage2 votes

yeah it is fair she has to be in melee range to attack anyone.

IceKingChernobog1 votes

She's a top laner, majority of top laners are ranged so dueling her past level 6 would be utterly useless because she can out sustain them with her ult

Rysophage4 votes

She's the GRAND DUELIST. WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DUEL SOMEONE WITH THAT TITLE. Thats like trying to 1v1 jax or vayne. YOU'LL DIE!

FortuneDoesWeed3 votes

My life would be complete if Fizz was to lost his E.

Makuo3 votes

Non Counterable? Its like zed ult except zhonyas and STEALTH instantly make it stop.

TheGrandAlliance1 votes

Lol the noobishness of this OP... Fiora's ultimate wasn't untargetable... just very hard to enagage.

ONe well timed Alistar skill shot, for instance, while she flased into to the attack and GG WP. She gets knocked right out of her ultimate. Been there done that it sucks I know...

...of course I wouldn't expect this noob from EUW to understand this but alas...

Fiora

Vistha Kai3 votes

You have no idea what you are talking about, then.

You could knock her out of her ultimate, because it has a CAST TIME. Once she finishes it, she becomes untargetable, no matter what you do.

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