So unmounted Kled's got 285 MS
Yay, finally a champ that can't outrun Mordekaiser
Yay, finally a champ that can't outrun Mordekaiser
He outruns you if he chases you. He gets 100(+5 per level) ms when moving towards enemies:P 475 ms late game without boots. Good luck escaping that....
Morde doesn't need to run.
Glad someone understands...
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He outruns you if he chases you. He gets 100(+5 per level) ms when moving towards enemies:P 475 ms late game without boots. Good luck escaping that....
Janna gets 500+ i think with mobi boots
Janna gets 500+ i think with mobi boots
approves of this number.
With sufficient CDR, she can keep herself under W influence all the time.
: Same
Speedy Support Club 
well, at least he could permanently speed buff himself before his mini rework
Sona's E cooldown is way too long to go under this category.
have you played sona recently? You only need 30% cdr after level 11 to keep it up permanently, and 40% if below level 11
Ok, i don't play Sona that often so i didn't always buy CDR items all the time.
so i didn't always buy CDR items all the time.
Several of her core items, even on variable builds, has CDR...

I've outrun ghosted vaynes
i wish sions passive would gain 105-190 extra movespeed when running towards enemies
Thats the reason I don't play him. Many times his passive his so kitable for the damage it does EDIT: See under
Well his passive is meant to be kited. The problem is that a lot of the time it is defeated by simply walking away.
to be honest though if he died slower that would work too
right now at lvl 18 he dies 3.5 x faster or something like that with no extra items
granted you usually get some bonus health so its a little slower, but having the ability to stay alive longer gives you more time to punish your enemies
i mean you can always one of these to get to your opponent
And there are items which can help you stick to them
personally i always grab stormraiders for extra stickyness aswell
If you last longer you could actually bother to actively dodge cc and projectiles without getting so low you wouldn't pose a threath after
thats his biggest problem really you cant really build for dying slower even with tank items you die faster at higher level and with more armor in general your damage is less and thus your lifesteal sustain is too
the passive just becomes weaker with every level of either you or your opponent
The unseen
is the deadliest.
to be honest though if he died slower that would work too
right now at lvl 18 he dies 3.5 x faster or something like that with no extra items
granted you usually get some bonus health so its a little slower, but having the ability to stay alive longer gives you more time to punish your enemies
i mean you can always one of these to get to your opponent
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And there are items which can help you stick to them personally i always grab stormraiders for extra stickyness aswell
If you last longer you could actually bother to actively dodge cc and projectiles without getting so low you wouldn't pose a threath after
thats his biggest problem really you cant really build for dying slower even with tank items you die faster at higher level and with more armor in general your damage is less and thus your lifesteal sustain is too
the passive just becomes weaker with every level of either you or your opponent
Actually you can build for dying slower. His passive actually exponentially shreds his health by a percentage, thus, if you went glasscannon, and got a bunch of AD/lifesteal, you'd theoretically be able to last longest as opposed to building tank. Of course, this assumes you're able to hit a target.
Upon taking fatal damage, Sion briefly becomes untargetable and enters a frenzy, restoring himself to 100% of his maximum health but losing 2 - 19 (based on level) health every 0.25 seconds, increasing by 1.4 - 13.3 (based on level) per subsequent tick.
Sion can freely move and use basic attacks during this time, gaining 100% life steal, attacking at 1.75 attack speed and dealing 10% of his target's maximum health as bonus on-hit damage, capped at 75 against minions and monsters.
Sion cannot cast any of his standard abilities while in this state but can cast Death Surge.png Death Surge using any learned ability.
That is his passive, so building tank is usually the best way to last longer because you dont drop by a % but flat amount increasing exponentially for that reason a squishy sion would die twice as fast as a tank sion
however there is one way to make sion last incredibly long
+
+ runic armor
the bonus healing from runes and visage will boost your 120% lifesteal to about 160%
the overheal on bloodthirster makes your health drain target your shield first allowing you to stay at full health as long as you keep hitting stuff with your 160% lifesteal
eventually you will die because the health drainage scales so rapidly
Upon taking fatal damage, Sion briefly becomes untargetable and enters a frenzy, restoring himself to 100% of his maximum health but losing 2 - 19 (based on level) health every 0.25 seconds, increasing by 1.4 - 13.3 (based on level) per subsequent tick.
Sion can freely move and use basic attacks during this time, gaining 100% life steal, attacking at 1.75 attack speed and dealing 10% of his target's maximum health as bonus on-hit damage, capped at 75 against minions and monsters.
Sion cannot cast any of his standard abilities while in this state but can cast Death Surge.png Death Surge using any learned ability.
That is his passive, so building tank is usually the best way to last longer because you dont drop by a % but flat amount increasing exponentially for that reason a squishy sion would die twice as fast as a tank sion
however there is one way to make sion last incredibly long
+
+ runic armor
the bonus healing from runes and visage will boost your 120% lifesteal to about 160%
the overheal on bloodthirster makes your health drain target your shield first allowing you to stay at full health as long as you keep hitting stuff with your 160% lifesteal
eventually you will die because the health drainage scales so rapidly
Huh. Originally on release it was % health is what I remembered. They must have changed it? Shrugs
just kick them a minion
why reanimated sion be running away from enemies?
He can't flee. But he can run at enemy champs pretty well, he has a huge MS buff when going towards enemies.
He can't flee. But he can run at enemy champs pretty well, he has a huge MS buff when going towards enemies.
Yikes, his worst matchups are already beginning to show huh.

The weird thing is..Morde can catch a Kled..But he can't run from a Kled..
Morde ain't no coward
But he is a tresspasser
This begs the question. Was Kled's land originally part of Morde's Empire.
And if so is Kled simply some petty thief?
Mordekaiser got evicted since he didn't pay his bills.
Oi, an Undead Revenant King who weaves the very fabrics of Death and Metallic Malice has other things on his mind other than paying bills. Like figuring out how to perfect his cookie recipe.
Or how to effectively clean his armor! All that blood and gore hanging off of it at the end of every battle seriously ruins the shine. I hear he's been tasking the controlled souls of Runeterra's scientists with developing a most luxurious polish.
He probably adds the iron from the blood into his armor through magic.
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Oi, an Undead Revenant King who weaves the very fabrics of Death and Metallic Malice has other things on his mind other than paying bills. Like figuring out how to perfect his cookie recipe.
"Rent? I never charge the souls of the damned rent for existing on my domain for all of eternity. I just demand their undying loyalty and use them to crush the souls of the living. What? Put down that phone! Yeah, well when the police get here the only thing they'll be 'evicting' is my foot from your ass!"
And then you notice he has shotgun with heavy recoil that features 2 charges and he still kites you when your Q is up... And his AAs have 250 range, with a frozen mallet and a BC, this should get him to a spot where he can kite morde even without his shotgun.
Somehow I cant believe they will keep It that low.
They will. His MS is low specifically when running away, to enforce that he's a champ who should stay and fight. He gets +100 MS when running towards champs.
Malicious Metal outside of M&G
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
I started out in Gameplay actually.
I started out on Team Recruitment http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/TallyBean18/media/GIF/truestory.gif.html
mordes empire? Isn't kled a noxian? Or did they change mordekaiser from some random possessed tincan to something else?
Noxus's skull castle is apparently Mordekaiser's old home. It was explained in his lore update.
I just played Morde on pbe, sadly its still hard keep up to him cause he has a dash on a 3 second CD...
Dash cooldown at rank 5 is 10 seconds. With 40% cdr that is 6 seconds.
but he stores bullets
Oh I see the cooldown is 3 seconds but it takes a really long time to store a bullet
it goes down to 3 seconds to store a bullet at level 18 (atleast with 40% cdr, i don't know if that effects it), its based on player level not q level too.
But he gets movespeed towards champions, so Mord DEFINITELY CANNOT out run him. FAZNABBUCK!
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But he gets movespeed towards champions, so Mord DEFINITELY CANNOT out run him. FAZNABBUCK!
If Kled is unmounted, I don't think Morde is the one who needs to run away.