Death's Dance and Phantom Dancer are also contributing to making Thornmail deal pretty much zero damage to their intended targets: ADCs. Combine MR, lifesteal, DD and PD, and Thornmail's looking pretty useless.
Should something be done to offset how those items are screwing Thornmail over, or should the entire item just be taken back to the drawing board?
Theorchero1 votesHow about you make it deal damage based off of premitigation instead of fucking scaling with your armor like it fucking used to be?
darkdill1 votesIt still does that, just at 15% instead of 35%. Riot wanted it to be a tank-only item, and made it crap in the process.
ZephyrDrake1 votesthornmail does that thing even exist? i thought it was in a corner crying with
and 
due to how pointless and useless they are
hsumis1ove1 votesThornmail isn't as anti-carry as attack speed slowing items are. I find as a vayne main a tank with frozen heart, and randuins, hurts more than thornmail.
Rivuo1 votesIf you buy a thornmail on a tank, it will force the enemy adc to buy lifesteal AND armor pen.
I honestly hate when people buy thornmail because it forces adcs to "dont touch that guy".
I think thornmail is fine and not weak at all.
LordGeovanni1 votesyou mean the life style that you would have bought any way and get the very first item they buy
LordGeovanni1 votesmr is pretty shit but thornmails isnt easy to build and with all the other overloaded items comming out thron mails wound need 400 hp to keep up and 200 just to do better off. but you are right moreso than magic resist squishies having items that make just damage disappear on them is pretty bs and having crits and life steal while tanks can't do damage because they are tanky but cant survive a burst combo from 2 champions
